Today I pulled the handle for the first time on a rifle case and popped my cherry. I decided that I would use a bunch of range pickup 308 to get started. I lubed up about 20 cases and started sizing them up in my forester national match die. I wanted to see how much the neck would be sized and I had a .320 average with a few .319s in the mix. Non of the brass was annealed so I am guessing the diameter of the die is around .318. I set up the die per the direction but did not check shoulder bump but should have considering there has been reports of issues in this area. I got more growth than I am used to hearing of the two I tracked completely the first went from 2.007 to 2.016. The second went 2.003 to 2.013. That seems excessive but not tracking the shoulder may have made that happen, lesson #1. I also ended up with at least one case that had a huge angle at the mouth. It looked like 20 or more degrees. Is this normal? After that I tried out some neck turning for the first time. What fun and not to hard. I did learn why people trim from the neck reference not oal, lesson #2. It appears that trimming before turning is a great idea. Might also not matter if you turn new brass. Anyhow today's adventure was interesting and fun. Scrapping it now and going to look for more to learn on. Wma brass sucks.