Thoughts on a Fixed Power Target Scope

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  1. HTSmith

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    I'm looking for a fixed power scope for shooting 300 yards and less. I see that some 100/200 yard benchrest shooters are using 50x. Are these power scopes usable at 300 yards with heavy mirage?
     
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  2. HTSmith

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    Let me rephrase. I'm looking for a high power (at least 35x) fixed scope to shoot out to 300 yards. Mirage is a problem around here. So I'm looking for something that will hold zero, give good image quality, and still be usable at 300 yards in bad mirage. Any suggestions or thoughts
     
  3. jimmymac

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    IMHO, mirage is a problem regardless of dollars spent. It doesn’t matter if it’s a $500 Weaver T-36 or a $1400 fixed power NF comp.

    A variable power where you can tweak magnification may help make things seem better when mirage is heavy.
     
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  4. R.Morehouse

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    There is a scope design by March that will give you the internals that stay rock solid but still gives you the ability to dial it back a bit for the mirage. It is their EPZ ( eyepiece zoom ) model. Mine is the 36x55 but the newer model is a bit more. There is a bit of a learning curve with them because the power adjustment is in the eyepiece. The eyepiece moves in & out. I found it was easily dealt with after some time behind it.

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    I agree that mirage is a problem no matter $ spent but a $600 Weaver looks fogged compared to a $2200 NF scope. Zooms come in handy on mirage days. I usually have to zoom down to 25X to see 1000yd target on a heavy mirage day. Cannot remember having to zoom down at 300yds on hvy mirage day.
     
  6. Fred Bohl

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    I have March 50x52 and 60x52 fixed and if I had it to do over I would have two 60x52. If mirage is extremely bad I use the modifier disk (that comes with these March target scopes) which reduces the effective objective clear aperture which in turn reduces resolution and apparent mirage but still retains magnification.

    I also have a March EP-Zoom 36-55x52. As to mirage help, the reduction from 55x to 36x does reduce apparent mirage but at the expense of magnification. Based on my experience I would still recommend the fixed scope with modifier disk for bad mirage to retain magnification benefits ("aim small miss small"). I have found the EP-Zoom to be most useful at longer range (600 or more yards) using 36x for target acquisition and general mirage assessment and 55x for actual aiming.
     
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  7. HTSmith

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    So any opinions on the Leupold Competition models in 35, 40, or 45X? It seems like I see a lot of them for sale.
     
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    I think if you check with Leupold they don't make them any more, to many problems!
    Also if you check for the Nightforce fixed power 42x44 I think you'll find they are not made any longer either.
    Good Luck with your search!
    Pete
     
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    IOR 36x42
     
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    My Son bought me a 45X Leopold fixed power for Christmas this past year so unless they have been discontinued more recently, you have been misinformed.
     
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    The 45X Comp has not been discontinued.
     
  14. Evan

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    If you need to make weight for a competitive class, go fixed power. Otherwise, I'd always get a variable. When mirage was bad, I couldn't do anything to help it with my leupold 45x. I sold it. I've got a Vortex GE now and when mirage gets soupy, I turn down the magnification to get back to a workable view.
     
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    Two questions. Are you going to compete or this just informal matches? Also, how much do you want to spend? $325 for a used Weaver or >$2,500 for a top of the line?
     
  16. HTSmith

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    I'd like to spend less than $1000. I'd like to be able to see 6mm bullet holes in the white at 200 yards. The Weaver I had wouldn't do that--very reliable adjustments but not the clearest optics.
     
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    Like others have said IOR Valdada
     
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    T36 WEAVER For the money the best scopes I have. Purchased 2 from this site for $325ea. I also have a NF bench rest scope for longer ranges.

    perry42
     
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    You didn’t say whether or not you had plans on competing, and if so were wanting to stay within a certain weight. Many short range benchredt shooters are limited to 10.5lbs so in that price range you’ll mostly see Leupold Competition series scopes and some IOR 36Xs. I’ve only seen a couple of the Weaver 46XR scopes but I’ve never looked through one. Then there’s the new Sightron 45X45 that is pretty nice. Over $1000 and you’ll see NF competition scopes and March. A few still use the Sightron or Weaver 36X 1” scopes for much less $.

    With $1000 to spend I’d recommend the IOR Valdada but I’m happy with my Leupold 40X as well.
     
  20. Tim s

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    As an FWI, any quality side focus scope will allow a tecnique of moving to the edge of focus which helps with serious mirage .
     

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