Target Paper

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  1. CubCouper

    CubCouper Silver $$ Contributor

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    To clear up a few details... the benchrest community long ago decided that it was important to have a source of paper that was very consistent in the way it recorded bullet holes. The NBRSA bought a massive amount of this paper and had it stored and printed at Orville Printing in Ohio. I can't tell you the exact details of how the IBS also ended up using what I think was same paper for long time... but ultimately that stockpile dwindled down. A few years ago Orrville printed some IBS targets on a new stock that was available and folks were not impressed. The specifications were the same, but the paper blew out the holes completely different that the old stock. I bought about 2000 sheets of that blank stock for printing my own practice targets and have the same problem. Not skookum.

    Knowing this, about 2-3 years ago as the last of the original NBRSA paper was used up, they went searching for a new vendor. Nothing wrong with Orrville, just that the old paper was gone and the new stuff that Orrville was getting in wasn't going to work. Lots of things were tried and they settled on a company in Omaha (http://www.targetsonline.com/ I believe). The new stuff feels 'plastic-coated', kinda like a new deck of playing cards. It has received mostly mixed reviews -- bullet holes are "too clean" -- a 6mm bullet leaves a .22 caliber hole. This is a problem for scoring where people (incorrectly) measure edge-to-edge and subtract instead of center-to-center. Also that plastic coating only catches a faint grey streak instead of the thick, black carbon ring of the old paper -- which messes with folks who fine tune their guns by analyzing that carbon track. Last I heard, that organization was still on the hunt for yet another perfect paper.

    So... Orrville is a great printer, but the old, good paper is gone.

    I've tried card stock and several flavors for office supply papers with disappointing results. Personally, I like the new plastic-coated paper. It definitely holds up in poor weather. And compared to 10 year old targets on my wall, I think it looks better. Just don't expect your range-measured world record to stand unless the scorer really knows how to find center of the bullet hole and not just an edge.

    Rod


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  2. grovey

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    I use Manilla file folders. Cheap, tough, holes don't blow out, and easy to store.
     
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  3. Pawnee Bill

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    +1 Good stuff and reasonably priced.
     
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  4. Uthink Uknow

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    I looked through the catalog at Targetsonline and found no IBS or NBRSA 100 or 200 yard score targets. I did send them a message to see if they could make those up. They already do print IBS/NBRSA rimfire targets. I’ll need centerfire for Harrison.
     
  5. Nick Caprinolo

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    I use photo paper that I buy from Red River Paper on line. It is especially good it wet weather. Does not curl or run. I like the high gloss with a sheen.

    I also use this paper from Amazon. It is heavy and makes a nice hole. Cheap also.


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  6. Dusty Stevens

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    Paper types make a huge impact on group size. If you compete be sure to practice on the correct paper
     
  7. Bill Norris

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    This is what I use as well. I have not found anything that is any better to track bullet perimeters and for weather conditions. It works well to place stick on dots on them.
     
  8. Gappmast

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    I use the card stock from Staples. Just push the pedals back in and measure the black spot
     
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  9. centershot

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    67# will not feed through my printer. Now I have to take the paper back to Office Max and have them print it for me. While I am at it, will ask about printing using red ink. Bullets can not hide as in the black ink.
     
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  10. TAJ45

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    The only suggestion I have to offer is long grain is to be avoided as it tears.
    However, I've eyeballed the cereal boxes when I've flattened them for the recycler. Haven't tried them yet but thought I'd use the gray side as a backer?
     
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  11. Mark W

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    I don’t eat enough cereal in a year to provide enough boxes to do any good. If 12 pack cartons work, that could be another story altogether.....
     
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  13. 338 dude

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    I have use this in the past for my tall target tests
     
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  14. 4xforfun

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    I get thick, high quality posters by the hundreds here at the shop. I mean really.....How many Mustang GT 350/500 posters can I hang in my showroom?? The rest make GREAT target paper!!
     
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  15. Just Say Moe

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    Cereal boxes work well but in between Lucky Charms, I sometimes use grocery bags from Kroger. Cut open and stick on target pasters or use a 1" sharpie to make an approximate 1" square.
     
  16. mikeinct

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    Next time you are in a Hallmark greeting card store. Check out the "Header Card" behind the greeting cards in almost every pocket on the racks. The backside is white non glare. I use a Sq. template 1"/fine Blk marker pen & set as a Diamond points up. They are free for the asking. They come in every pack of greeting cards. Waste not Want Not. Mike in Ct
     
  17. Uthink Uknow

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    Amazing that you mention going into an Hallmark Card Store.
    Hallmark is anti-gun or at least anti-NRA.

    From the NRA Pages

    Hallmark Cards

    Irvine O. Hockaday, President & CEO
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  18. mikeinct

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    I know. I dealt w those Sheet Heads for 40 years before I closed my store/some of the privately held shops have nice owners ..Mike in Ct
     
  19. Tim Singleton

    Tim Singleton Gold $$ Contributor

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    This is what @Dusty Stevens is talking about
    The paper is important
    Which seating depth do you think is the right one ?
    Right or left?
     

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  20. dgeesaman

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    Have you tried setting the "paper type" in your printer settings? This setting slows down the rollers and helps it feed better. If in doubt, set it for extra heavy.

    I occasionally shoot on rainy days. I had some Rite in the Rain cardstock I bought from their website. Its handles rain like a champ but the holes don't punch as crisply. I think I will order more just because it's great to have.

    I've also used generic cardstock.

    All targets make cleaner holes when you place them over a fresh sheet of cardboard. I use half of an unfolded cereal box on each target.
     
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