Smallbore ELR?

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  1. steve_podleski

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    I have heard that there is an effort to run competitions with smallbore rifles with .22RF up to distances of 600yd. Anyone have info on this?
     
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  2. Clearlight

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    184AD875-5647-4776-A1BB-9F3A2E15542C.jpeg Great idea . Gets almost anyone into ELR with minimal cost , the
    biggest issue for most is getting enough elevation . Last time I shot
    a 22 LR , it was at 500 meters : around 123 - 126 minutes up got
    me there , with RWS orange box ammo .

    Some folks think of ELR as time of flight , rather than distance . Here’s
    a pic of multiple World BR Champion Stuart Elliott from Australia drilling
    steel at 500 meters with a sleeved Mk 1 BRNO , using a prototype
    March Genesis scope . No issues dialling that distance with 400 MOA
    available !
     
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    [personal opinion] I think trying to take 22LRs out to those ranges is counterproductive to the idea of a health competition. There are very few scopes on the market that have the elevation to get to 600yds with a 22LR. Sure there are some, but you are talking about a really small subset of the available products on the market. How many people will be willing to shell out big $$ for a scope to shoot a 22LR at distances that are really a chip shot for center fire rifles?

    Three hundred yds is a huge poke for a 22LR, but you can get there with off the shelf equipment that isn't extravagant or specialized. I guess the choice whether you want a pool of 50 to 100 competitors nation wide or thousands.

    Personally, I'd try it at 300, but if my Steiner M5Xi can't get there (my scope with the most elevation at 20 mils) I'm not buying a scope just to play.
     
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    It would be interesting to know what quality ammo is required to hit a 12"x12" target at 600yd!
     
  6. micmac

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    Compared to cost of centerfire ELR this is peanuts , angled scope base , many of todays scopes offer 100moa elevation so and some reticle subtensions and you can get you far . but like any competiton sooner or later people kit up. Rimfire ELR is meant to run in similar format as King of 2 miles and longest target might not be hit at all,

    You will see every single shooter will likely clear 300 , problems will start past 400y

    I for one do not save on rimfire optics , i use similar quality as on centerfires
     
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  7. Clearlight

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    Not too hard to get a rail for most 22s these days , and there are plenty
    of scopes with 100+ MOA . I’m in MILs in a few scopes : if I settled for
    A 200 zero ( reasonable for an ELR comp ) , there’s 8 MILs to start .

    Agree around 400 is where things get inconsistent for me : if wind
    isn’t too bad , I’m at 80% impacts on a standard silhouette turkey .
    Push that out another 100 , and things get a lot harder . ( 22 lr )

    Regarding ELR in general , just 5 years ago , anyone not in the trade
    or with a professional shooting background similar to mine , would
    just laugh at the idea of shooting 2000 yards or more . Now , many
    times a week I’m getting hit up for training , or advice on building
    a rig for shooting past a mile .

    ELR is moving from the world of custom voodoo , to off the shelf
    repeatable accuracy . You can get a turn key system from folks
    like Applied Ballistics , and get in the game overnight .
     
  8. 284winner

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    I think it'd be a hoot. For those that can't sink 3-7k into ELR equipment, this is a great alternative. I think the end result will be about as difficult to achieve. 338 Lapua at 2500 vs .22 RF at 600. Hitting steel at 600 with a very poor bc .22 slug will be very challenging. As said 300 isn't too difficult but getting to 400 and beyond will be challenging to hit consistently.
     
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