Show of hands for: 2000 Yard ELR Match in August 2018

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  1. dmoran

    dmoran Gold $$ Contributor

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    Were wanting an idea of how many are planning to attend.
    Please only speak for yourself (and immediate family members).

    All we need from those planning on attending is:

    Planning to attend

    and

    What all Classes you plan to shoot



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    Where: BRGC (www.broadwaterrodandgun.com) - Townsend, MT

    When: August 16 - 19, 2018

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    Elite 2000 Yard Association

    Rules (draft 2-8-2018)


    Classes:

    1- ELR
    1a Rifle weight not to exceed 40lbs including all attachments and "as fired"
    1b Rifle must be supported by an attached bipod in the front. The rear may be supported by anything except a mechanical rest. Attached monopods are legal.
    1c Rifle to be fired from prone position.
    * If physically unable to get into a prone position the shooter may use a bench (if available) at the match directors discretion.

    2- UNLIMITED
    2a- Unlimited, with the only exceptions listed under "Both classes"
    2b- Rifles may be fired from benches (if available), or from prone position.

    3- HUNTER GUN
    18 LBS as fired, foldable bipod only. Fired from prone. *disabled may shoot off bench at match director approval.



    Rules for ALL classes.


    Set up time.

    1. Once your relay is called to the firing line, you will have 15 minutes for set up.

    Wind flags:
    1. Are allowed, but must be set no higher then at the "line of sight"
    2. Are subject to the Match Directors discretion and approval

    Miscellaneous:

    1.No instrument that collects or records data allowed forward of the firing line.
    All instrumentation subject to the range officers discretion and approval.


    Rifle scopes / sights:
    1. Must be adjusted by the shooter for POA corrections. (No "smart scopes".



    Course of fire:

    Sighter period will be unlimited shots. You will be given 5 minutes at the command "commence fire". The range officer will announce time warnings at 2 minutes, 1 minute, 30 seconds, and 15 seconds remaining. The R.O. will command "cease fire", and bolts must be removed at this time. This is a COLD RANGE period for the target crew to go in and raise targets, or paste accidental hits. Once the targets are up, and pit sealed the R.O. will announce the 3 minute final sight in period. R.O. will command "commence fire", and shooters have unlimited sighters at the sight in bank. Any shots on record targets at this time will result in disqualification from the relay. R.O. shall give time warnings at 2 minutes, 1 minute, 30 seconds, and 15 seconds and "cease fire". The R.O. will then immediately give the command "commence fire on record targets". Shooters will have 10 minutes to complete their 5 shots for record. Time warnings will be announced at 3 minutes, 2 minutes, 1 minute, 30 seconds and 15 seconds.

    The targets dimensions are as follows: (MR-1)

    72" x 64"
    X=6"
    10=12"
    9=18"
    8=24"
    7=36"
    6=48"
    5=60"
    0=on paper outside rings, but will qualify for group


    Scoring/awards:

    Each official match will consist of a 3 target aggregate for each class for both group and score.

    Ties for score will be broken by smallest group. If there is still a tie, it will be broken by x count. If there is still a tie, it will be broken by closest to center.

    Group ties will be broken by highest score.

    Targets with fewer than 5 shots:
    1. 72" will be added to the group size for each missing shot
    2. Missing shots will count "0" for score.

    Group's outside the repair centers will be measured, scored, and pasted over for reuse. Group's that stay within the repair centers will be taken down, and given to the competitor after it's been officially scored.


    Winners will be announced for the following...

    HUNTER gun group
    HUNTER gun score
    HUNTER gun overall

    Unlimited gun group
    Unlimited gun score
    Unlimited gun overall

    ELR gun group
    ELR gun score
    ELR gun overall


    WORLD RECORDS will be acknowledged for the following.

    Unlimited gun
    - Small group
    - High score
    - 3 target aggregate group
    - 3 target aggregate score

    ELR gun
    - Small group
    - High score
    - 3 target aggregate group
    - 3 target aggregate score

    HUNTER GUN
    -small group
    -high score
    -3 target aggregate group
    -3 target aggregate score
     
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  2. dmoran

    dmoran Gold $$ Contributor

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    Planning to attend
    All 3 classes

    Donovan Moran
    LaMoure, ND
     
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  3. Alex Wheeler

    Alex Wheeler Gold $$ Contributor

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    I'll be there. Chance of having a rifle together and tuned... slim.
     
  4. ttfreestyle

    ttfreestyle Gold $$ Contributor

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    Planning to attend
    2 shooters in unlimited (if Bat comes through);)
    1 in hunter class

    Troy and Elaine
    Sparta Tn
     
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  5. retired

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    i'll be there
    hunter/bench
     
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  6. LA50SHOOTER

    LA50SHOOTER Gold $$ Contributor

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    I'll be there & my wife as well (She will not be shooting) - So, 1 shooter.
    I will shoot All 3 Classes.

    Ron & Letecia from South Central Louisiana
     
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  7. RSchatz

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    I'm planning to attend.

    one shooter in unlimited.

    Richard Schatz
     
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  8. MTlager

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    Yaa, what the heck. I suppose I could try a class or two ??

    Lonnie
     
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  9. Ledd Slinger

    Ledd Slinger Gold $$ Contributor

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    Planning to attend

    All 3 classes

    Brandon - Kalispell, Montana
     
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  10. moondog

    moondog Gold $$ Contributor

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    I,ll be there if Alex gets my rig stocked in time. Waiting on McMillan.
    All three fer me.
    Wife non shooting, 2 GSP's (movers)
     
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  11. JBauer

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    Sally and I are planning to attend. We'll shoot every class that I have a gun ready for.
     
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  12. Esoteric Junkie

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    "WORLD RECORDS will be acknowledged for the following".

    ???????

    EJ
     
  13. Alex Wheeler

    Alex Wheeler Gold $$ Contributor

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    Yes, these matches can be sanctioned and shot anywhere in the world. Actually who ever shoots the smallest at this first one will have shot the smallest group ever shot in an official sanctioned 2000 yard match.
     
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  14. Esoteric Junkie

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    Alex,
    Is there a worldwide sanctioning body? If so, what is the website and when did everyone from various countries meet to establish the rules?

    To be fair to all other countries and shooters perhaps all groups and scores should be held for one year then a "WORLD RECORD" established. Taking the best group at the first ever match should not constitute a "WORLD RECORD", just like the ELR "WORLD RECORD" match recently held in Pahrump, NV. The winner of the first match holds the "WORLD RECORD" by default as others have not had an opportunity to participate in their respective countries.

    "WORLD RECORD, WORLD RECORD, WORLD RECORD" got to love this terminology............

    EJ
     
  15. Jason Boersma

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    Well someone does have to be first
     
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  16. retired

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    I AGREE.
    why wait a year? it is not the "2018 best", it is the CURRENT record. the rest of benchrest and i assume f class set records based on when they were shot, not the best of a year.
    ya gotta start somewhere!

     
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  17. CharlieNC

    CharlieNC Silver $$ Contributor

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    I would go if I had something that would shoot that far!
     
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  18. dmoran

    dmoran Gold $$ Contributor

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    @CharlieNC
    I've done it with a 6Dasher (5-shot group at 2000). You must have something at least that big or bigger?
    The IBS-1000 National's is the weekend before at DCR/Missoula. Come to it at least (or both).
    Be great to meet up with you !.!.!
    Donovan
     
  19. CharlieNC

    CharlieNC Silver $$ Contributor

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    Donovan I do have a 300WM hunter that sends a few shots well with its pencil barrel. Main challenge is we have our NC state Fclass championship match the following weekend. Choices......
     
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  20. Alex Wheeler

    Alex Wheeler Gold $$ Contributor

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    Its real simple. E2K is the sanctioning body, theres no website yet. Like every other organisation the whole world doesnt get to put in their input. At this point I know of no other sanctioning body for 2000 yard matches. So the only sanctioned 2000yd matches, which can be shot at any range in the world if they choose makes it a world record. If somene else starts a 2000 yard sanctioning body we would probably call them E2K records. But since this is the only "real" 2000 yard match in the world... world record. This is not throwing lead until you "hit" its a measured and recorded group under official rules and format. No different than the IBS matches we hold. You just need a central body with rules we all follow. We are far more interested in the shooting than the stroking.
     

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