Selling Rifle - No responses ???

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  1. msinc

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    Yeah, I agree....might have been on here, but I saw a riddle the other day: How come you never see Trump wearing glasses??? Because he's got "2020"!!!!!

    One thing you have to factor in with selling a rifle, not just on this site, but to the folks on this sight...we are kind of a picky bunch of shooters and so used to having to change things to make it suit us that, myself for example, just about every rifle I see for sale is complete, but only an action to me. Usually it has to be a little more, like an action and a stock I will use or an action with the right trigger and scope bases. I seriously cant remember the last time I bought a rifle and left it complete.
    I know this is not the sellers fault, but it gets to be the sellers problem if he really wants/needs to sell to most of us on here. It goes to the type of shooters you are trying to sell to. You are not going to get top dollar for a collectable Bear bow from a bunch of compound shooters. In fact, you might have to give it to one of them if that is your "buyer base".
    What's that old saying?? "There's an asking, a selling and a taking price" only one will get the item gone. It doesn't matter the reason it's where it's at....you have to get in touch with it, if you want the thing gone.
     
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  2. atblis

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    If you wait 10 years, and sell it for 50 percent more, did you really make 50 percent more?

    There's a rifle for sale on here I wouldn't mind having, except I don't want the stock, the chambering isn't throated to load the bullets at the OAL I want, and the muzzle brake would immediately come off. I'd consider it for half what the seller's asking, but won't offer that.
     
  3. 300_whisper

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    It can’t hurt to ask?
     
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  4. hogpatrol

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    My 2¢, How many new entrants enter the accurate shooting game and quickly get bored or frustrated when they find out you can't just buy the best and automatically win a match? The result is time to dump the rifle and try something else. How about a divorce where community property (yep, half that rifle is hers) has to be sold. Seen that a few times. Another scenario, "Honey, the washing machine died and we need a new dryer". Bye Bye rifle at a fire sale price. :(
    Long range and precision shooting for the masses is a fad that will fade, just like the AR craze has done.
    And yes, sorry, it really is just an AR and tell me why one cost over five grand?

    https://fightlite.com/rifles
     
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  5. Bc'z

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    This is a prime example as to why my ol man always said never get in a hurry to buy or sell a firearm.
     
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  6. 300_whisper

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    I wish mine cost over 5K! I was asking $2K! lol

    I really hope youre wrong about the long range thing. We need more people involved in shooting sports.
     
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  7. Milo 2.0

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    Lol, we have rifles built to our tastes for a reason.
    I see rifles I like, and would not mind buying, but the stock or color of the stock is usually the deal breaker. I can paint a barreled action on a rebarrel, but paying top dollar for a stock to spend 2-400 to re-paint is about as smart as sending the little woman into Kohls with a CC and telling her to "Have some fun baby".

    I had a 7 saum built for a friend for the sole purpose of shooting Qcreek PRS match, from the idea to completion was 1 week and it was ready to go. It was put together with expensive components, but I have never really liked the gun, and when I tried to sell it, it became apparent no one else really did either. It will be sold for parts when the barrel is toast.
     
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  8. 300_whisper

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    I really liked that rifle. The only kicker for me was 7SAUM. With two little kids running around I could never reload properly for it. I tried with a 6Dasher and after a day of my son knocking over powder and my wife telling me I spend too much time in the basement, I had to put reloading on hold.

    To the OP, I saw your ad. Looks like an awesome rifle. And in the spirit of the forum, Ill give you $500 for it and you ship on your dime! ;)
     
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  9. hogpatrol

    hogpatrol Don't criticize the farmer with your mouth full. Gold $$ Contributor

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    Demographics are against all outdoor sports. Once the boomers are gone, a lot of the pastimes enjoyed by them will disappear. It's simple economics. The average guy just doesn't have the time or money. What used to require one job, went to two incomes and in the future will require an additional part time job. At one of my gun clubs, a match was dropped mostly because of age and decline in the number of participants. Aside that, at the two clubs where I shoot, the vast majority of range use is handguns and black gun guys shooting steel, 200 to 500 meters. Hunters and precision shooters are a minority.
     
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  10. Kurz

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    Please don't think I'm picking on you because I'm not.:D

    We have a huge dichotomy going on the field of AR15/10. Far too many of the general public have become jaded by the advertising of $49.95 lowers and $79.99 uppers. The kitchen table parts hacker can assemble parts for an AR15 for somewhere around $400.00 albeit from low end parts lacking in the quality department.

    The answer to $5,260.00 ARs is because they can and there is a niche for them. How long they last in business could be another story. I used to buy Exhibition grade stock blanks for $1,000.00 which now cost $5,000.00 for the same quality.

    But the folks who compete in arenas like 3-Gun where the winner walks away with a ton of money, require a rifle which will withstand the rigors of shooting competitively day after day. This calls for the top quality properly spec'd and machined parts for professional use, not the back yard rattle battle crap which the vast majority are used for. Then add in the time, skill and knowledge it takes to put those parts together in such a way that they are as fail safe as possible. And just like bolt action shooters, take a look at the top end trigger prices these days. They are not 50 bucks any more, they're $350.00! Quality barrels, $350 + lots of gunsmithing. Matched uppers and lowers, $700.00 and up. And the gunsmithing is not simply parts assembly. There are a bunch of timing issues and gas management issues to a top of the line AR platform. And, believe it or don't, who the gunsmith is matters.:D The 'smiths working for the best shooters will get the majority of the builds, just like bolt action rifles.

    Yes, I know it's a rant but there is NO comparison between a $400.00 AR and a $2-3,000.00 custom AR. :eek:;)
     
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  11. jds holler

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    He was right about that -- and not just with firearms.

    Anytime you've got "the hots" to buy or sell ANYTHING, you have probably missed any chance of getting a good deal.

    It really sucks if you've been telling your wife that "It might seem like I'm spending a lot of money on these guns, but I could sell any one of them for a couple grand anytime I want.":rolleyes:
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  12. Milo 2.0

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    Not to argue with you hog, your first 2 sentences seem to be spot on. But these youngers are spending a butt ton of money, it is just not on what we did.
    They buy packaged meals ready to prepare, designer clothes, etc..

    With PRS style shooting, not sure why younger guys would want into BR, my .02. Looking back, yes, I wanted accurate guns, but accurate when I was 25 is a far cry from accurate these days.
     
  13. SPJ

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    I see several items sell on this forum at a price that’s normally above other venues.
    Try taking that item to a pawn shop and see what.25 cents on a dollar does for ya. Brutal to say the least :eek:
     
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  14. hogpatrol

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    Yeah, and thousand dollar phones too! A lot different now than what it used to be with the additional cost of monthly fees for internet access, wireless carriers, cable TV, Netflix, and a host of other stuff that requires a monthly payment.
    A lot of boomers have the money now but down the road, it's a foregone conclusion that a lot of hobbies will be only for the wealthy.
     
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  15. Bc'z

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    Pawn Stars screwed up the market!
    That's the answer.
     
  16. 300_whisper

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    Rick: I know a guy who can appraise this.

    Guy: it’s real. Min price is $75k

    Rick: what do you want to do with it?

    Customer: sell it for $75k

    Rick: (long sigh) I’ll tell you what, I’ll give you $25k for it. It has to sit on my shelf. You know for like a long time.

    :rolleyes::confused:
     
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  17. Papa Charlie

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    Custom guns and custom cars have a lot in common. You will never recoup the money you spend on a custom car when you sell it. Lucky if you can pull 50% of actual dollars spent on materials.

    I see no difference in guns. Most rifles are custom built to the shooters specifications, not the general public. What is worth the $'s to me, isn't worth squat to the next guy.

    I am of the opinion with many here that the highest price you will get is to part out a gun. Sell the optics separately, the stock (maybe), barreled action with or without the trigger, depending on the level of trigger.

    But, don't expect much more than half of the materials you put into it and less if it is a truly custom part.

    If you are thinking, "I can turn around and sell this for almost what I paid for it" when you are justifying your buy, then you are just fooling yourself and don't think I haven't used that logic when I really want something. But reality is that won't be the case, at least when it comes to guns most of the time. Of course there are always exceptions.

    I don't like it, but that seems to be the reality of the product and the market.
     
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  18. okie

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    exactly--when we get a DEM. the price goes up.
     
  19. okie

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    exactly!
     
  20. Jdne5b

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    I bet this time around, BR/Fclass rifles wont see much pop. ARs, ammo, components, sure.. but I cant imagine that the normal stuff here will see a huge boost.
     

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