SEB Update

Discussion in 'Gear Talk: What to Buy? and Gear Evaluations' started by SEB-USA, Feb 13, 2009.

  1. SEB-USA

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    1. SEB Rest pricing.
    Please do not confuse the price that is listed on Seb’s website which is for customers where there are no dealers. There are SEB dealers in the USA, UK, Australia, and the Ukraine. Seb is sorry for this confusion, and when the website is updated he will do his best to make the information clearer.

    The price found on www.sebcoax.com is the base price before shipping and transfer fees for customers where there are no dealers. Seb said that the cheapest shipping,Non-Dealer Countries) from the manufacturing location in Indonesia is $ 178.23 for a SEB rest, @ 12 kgs, by TNT the least expensive. Bank transfer fee will also run $35,minimum) which is another cost for the customer.

    2. Seb does not sell SEB Products directly to individuals in the countries that have already had dealers,USA, UK, Australia, & Ukraine).

    3. Update: New SEB Rest 2009 in R&D.
    Seb’s goal is to make a new rest in a different design,Still the same coaxial type rest with double sided feature). It will have quicker elevation adjustment. It will also go lower & taller at the lowest & tallest setting,from about 4" to 9" tall, or more), and could accept rifle stock up to 6" wide. Good thing about this is that the price will be less expensive too.

    The standard SEB rests are awesome and are currently the only one to offer "double sided" features, etc. The new rest will offer broader of uses, for short range, F-class & other long range benchrest shooting competitions, and varmint shooting, too.
    Unfortunately, because of the specifications/requirements, Seb must remove the "pivotal base system" and make the base in "T" shape. The base can be disassembled for easily for more compact storage.
    By design, this rest can accept "Balance Weight System",BWS) better than the standard SEB rest, because the weight,which is optional) would not interfere with the front elevation screw, the forend stopper, or the base. This is the reason that the base is designed in "T" shape.
    The "BWS" is basically a "weight", simply a chunk of stainless steel, attached to the opposite side of where you attach the joystick. It's an optional item, cheap, and available in different weights. I will need to know the approximate weight of the rifle,s) when ordering the Seb's "BWS".
    With the "BWS", the SEB rests could accept rifles as heavy as 30 kgs,66 lbs), or even more. This should be able to be accomplished without holding the joystick, if the users wish to!
    If the weight is correct,matching to the weight of the rifle), I suspect that the rest top & “BWS” combination would remain stationary under hard recoil.
    I will use bigger/stronger center shaft and bigger bearings, for this.
    There is also an improved forend stopper in the works.
    The rest will still be with twin posts, coarse elevation is by rack & pinion.
    The "CTC" between the posts is about 10", to be able to accept rifle stock up to 6" wide. The new rest will be the same as the standard SEB rests, as it can be used/set both for right-hand & left-hand shooters without any modifications.
    Hopefully this new rest will cost less than my standard rests. Seb is trying to keep the price less than $700. This should be possible because of the design, and materials.
    It will have the same standard of smoothness and quality that that Seb is known for.

    Another option for this new rest is that it can be modified to be a "one piece rest" for rimfire shooting.
    Seb is still working how to design the "rear part" so as to keep the front & rear part to move 100% parallel/inline,to not make any twist etc to the rifle stock), and without much modifications.

    Seb asks your patience as he is still choosing possible material and is still experimenting to determine what will work best. Besides this, Seb is working on front bag design as well. More on that later.
    Once this new rest,Name?) is ready, he will be shipping some to the States for testing. Personally, I can’t wait to see this new rest!

    Just as an update, I have a shipment of rests,15) coming toward the end of February or the beginning of March. Currently, I am out of stock, and have started a waiting list. Price for a SEB Rest,includes one front bag 2.25” or 3”) is $725.00 plus shipping/handling,Insurance is optional).

    Ernie Bishop
    306 West Flying Circle Drive
    Gillette, WY 82716
    ,307) 257-7431
    ernieemily@yahoo.com
     
  2. canuck

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    When will this new model be available?
     
  3. SEB-USA

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    My guess would be sometime in the summer. To early to know for sure.
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  4. effendude

    effendude Gold $$ Contributor

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    Ernie,
    I was getting ready to buy a rifle rest, and then you post that a new and improved SEB is coming out! Arrrgh! We live in a great country don't we? What is the inventory on current SEB rests? Thanks,
    Scott
     
  5. SEB-USA

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    Scott,
    I have a shipment of 15 rests coming in early March.
    More than half of those are spoken for,I have a waiting list).
    Shoot me an email if you have any questions.
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  6. seb

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    Gentlemen,
    I need your inputs, please. Please be very honest here....What thing,s) you do NOT like on my rest / products? etc.
    I have a lot of positive feedbacks,for hundreds, I believe)...What I really need to know is, the 'bad' thing,s) on my rest,etc)...ANYTHING that you do not like!
    Again, please be very honest. I am open to critisms and will always stand behind my products.
    Thanks you, seb.:)
     
  7. canuck

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    As I live in Canada I ordered mine directly from Sebastian. The shipping was fast and everything arrived safe and sound. The quality and engineering of his rest is simply outstanding . The biggest surprise I got though was with the sand bags. In the pictures they don't look like anything special but upon receiving them I was totally amazed. These are very top quality sand bags .
     
  8. ThunderDownUnder

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    I have been using your rest for the last 6 months and like it a lot. One thing I would like to see improved is the central height adjustment. I would like to see another inch of height available as I shoot f-class and am always adjusting the height from mound to mound.

    Its much easier to use the central height adjustment than the legs. Just one more additional inch would be a great improvement. I added 2' deep conical spikes with 2.5' circular aluminum tops to prevent sinking into sand/mud. The option of f-class feet might also be a good idea to pursue.

    Keep up up the superb build quality Seb!

    Ian
     
  9. FCJIM

    FCJIM Silver $$ Contributor

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    Seb,
    I can't find any faults with you rest. I have set many National records with your rest, 7 last weekend in a med range F-open match and a few more over the past few years. Being a Machinist myself, I can appreciate the fine workmanship in your rest.

    Regards,
    Jim Murphy
     
  10. seb

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    Thanks you for the kind words, gentlemen.:)

    seb.
     
  11. seb

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    Jim,
    Great shootings, as usual...:thumb:

    seb.
     
  12. ericskennard

    ericskennard Gold $$ Contributor

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    Sebastian & Ernie, Any news on the rests?

    Can we still order the current ones?

    Eric S. Kennard
    Indian Harbour Beach FL
     
  13. seb

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    Mr. Kennard,
    Thanks you for your interest in my front rest.
    You still can order the current rest, because it's already proven/perform very well in many major level competitions.

    So we will have two kind of rests in the near future, the regular rest, and the 'Neo'.

    We are still working hard to make the 'Neo'. The mechanism / coaxial unit, etc, are already fine. But, we have to make sure that the entire unit/details to be as perfect as possible, no 'cheap short cut', still not hard/effective to produce,to minimize the production cost), etc...
    By the way, the new coaxial unit alone, is 'more complex' than making an action.

    First, I will send some prototypes,7 or so units, maybe in different bases/configurations) to some dealers & top shooters - to get valuable inputs, and then make the needed/possible improvements, before we sell it.
    I still have many alternative designs on the base and must determine which one,s) best / prefered.
    This needs time....But for one strong reason...i.e. how to make it as perfect as possible!

    Thanks you all for your understanding, patience, and supports!
    I can only tell you that you will like it.

    I will post some pics when ready...

    Best Regards,
    seb.
     
  14. SEB-USA

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    Seb emailed me to tell me there are rests being shipped tomorrow. Then, in a week or so another shipment.
    Ernie
     
  15. Jefferson

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    It is Jeff here, the Canadian captain for the short rest benchrest world team, and as a team #2 finished in 4th place to the pesky USA a3 teams only by .002 inch in the 2 gun in vienna in 2007,

    seb products work, and work well,

    look forward to getting one of the new rests to try

    later Jefferson
     
  16. ericskennard

    ericskennard Gold $$ Contributor

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    Well I anxiously await the new F-Class version!!!!
     
  17. seb

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    In a few weeks,around the end of Nov) I should be able to finish 10 prototypes as the test/sample units. I still have to finish about 50 rests,the regular rest) at this moment.
    In next week I should be able to show you how it looks.

    After the prototypes and feedback, and possible improvement,s), I will soon start the production. But my best guess is, around February or March 2010. Still depends on my left time & the materials.
    I am really sorry, please forget the 2009! I believe that I cannot make it anymore.
    I apologise for the lengthy delay here.

    Thanks you,
    seb.
     
  18. cliffy

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    Does 'SEB' sell primers to the US? Without primers, all else pales by comparision. Cliffy
     
  19. brui86

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    Any new updates?
     
  20. seb

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    I sent 5 unit protoypes yesterday & today. You'll get some reviews, soon.
    Thanks for asking,
    seb.
     

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