running a 1:9 twist for .223

Discussion in 'Small Stuff--22s, 20s, and 17s' started by loud_noise, Sep 1, 2017.

  1. loud_noise

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    Hi .223 shooters

    I'm seriously considering picking up a .223 in a factory offering for the purposes of F-open/field shooting in shorter ranges and occasionally knocking small fluffy things. 1:9, med Varmint contour, 24" barrel.

    I'm really interested in the experience people might have had in getting projectiles in the 68-75gn range to stabilize and group from .223 with a 1:9 twist and if you had found there were any particularly good projectile types for this twist rate.

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. r bose

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    I had a savage with a 9 TW 24". it would shoot 75 hornady HPBT and AMAX but nothing heavier if I pushed the $HIT out of them. Accuracy was marginal. Went to the 69g Seirra and it worked perfectly. I'm thinking the 70g Nosler RDF might be a good choice now days but I have no proof of that. It advertises the same BC as an 80g Sierra.
     
  3. Clancy

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    75 Hornady bthp, very capable of bugholes.

    I'd be more worried about who the manufacturer is than the twist in this case.
     
  4. JBT

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    I've owned a couple 9" twist. One of them would shoot the 75gr Amax the other would not. 69gr Scenars shot best from my 9" twists.
     
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  5. liseo

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    Berger 73 grains BT . 1/3 to 1/4 MOA @100 m in my custom 1/9 tw rifle
     
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  6. pacificman

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    You might consider the 53 grain v-max as this bullet has a high BC. and can be pushed
    at higher speeds than the heavies. Just something to throw out there to ponder. ;):)
     
  7. Texas10

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    The 53 gr. V-Max shoots very well out of my 9 twist (Savage M12FV) and makes short work of clays at 500 yds. using IMR3031
    For bunny bopping, the 69TMK has a very good BC and will do 750 yds. easily and accurately out of a 9 twist. I use IMR8208XBR.
    YMMV.
     
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  8. Huckleberry75

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    Had an sps tactical 20" with 9tw, it loved 69smk's and varget. The new TMK's seem to be a pretty good comprise for a "do-all" bullets for targets, critters and varmints.
     
  9. Mozella

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    You can certainly enter F-open matches with that gun, but you'll have the gun with the lowest capability on the firing line, even at local low-key matches. Being bottom of the food chain doesn't mean you can't have fun, but you won't have a chance of winning.

    F-Class, they say, is "all about the wind", but a half decent rifle is important too. It's very rare for anyone to shoot a .223 in F-Open. The gun you're considering will be a serious handicap, especially in F-Open. Even in F/TR, where the .223 belongs, you will be outgunned everywhere you go.

    On the other hand, you can have a lot of fun shooting the lighter bullets just for kicks. I had a .223 1:9 twist and it shot SMK 69 gr bullets like a laser. It was a great paper puncher at 100 yds and 200 yds. As a matter of fact, it was the gun I took to my first 600 yard F/TR match. I was able to lob the bullets down to the target, but it didn't take a genius to see that F/TR is no place for a 1:9 gun with a medium contour barrel shooting light weight bullets. It was the gun which got me into F-class shooting, but when I returned to the 600 yd firing line, it was with a more suitable .223 fitted with a longer 1:7 twist bull barrel.

    But what you propose might be a great gun for shooting at God's little furry creatures or just having fun at the local range.
     
  10. Knotwild

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    Why not get an 8 twist and be done with it. I know Tikka makes some 8 twist .223's.
     
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  11. swadiver

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    i will second this on the 73 Bergers. great bullet for the 1 in 9 twist
     
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  12. 17VLD

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    I've had fun with pds and the 68Starke out to 500 yards,now that I am running out I may try that 70 Nosler in my 700PSS,seems like a lot of great choices to pick from these days.
    Matt
     
  13. earlcurtis67

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    69 gn MKs and 8208XBR ,1/4" all day long....
     
  14. swadiver

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    pics all day long, please
     
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  15. earlcurtis67

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    Of course I'm kidding. E
     
  16. loud_noise

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    hey everyone,, thanks for for the advice. There is a lot of handy suggestions RE bullet types so thank you.

    I am looking at a Howa, 22" with a 1:9 twist with the varmint barrel as an off the shelf fun gun. The reason I am thinking of going with this and not a Tikka (which i own in a .260 and absolutely adore) is the price differential. I could get the Howa for about 3-4 hundred dollars less. There is part of my brain that says I should just save and get the T3x Supervarmint in .223, 24" 1:8 etc and be done with it...but I was trying to keep this rifle sub $2k in price band. I shoot .308 and .260 predominantly for my comp work and was mainly interested in a .223 as low recoil, cheap to feed and possible hunting, fun type gun.

    my thoughts seem to have been validated with suggestions that 60-70gn projectiles will work better, its also heartening to see 73gn bergers get mention as performers in the 1:9.

    Thanks again for the advice, happy for any other suggestions
     
  17. swadiver

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    ;)
     
  18. JBT

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    I understand what your saying about saving money...but I'd rethink that and go with the Tikka.
     
  19. earlcurtis67

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    Look at the Weatherby S-2, same action, better stock. E
     
  20. mr.big

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    my 9 twist CZ 527 shoots the 69 SMK,,75 Hornady BTHP very well,,but it thinks it is a Krieger bbled Bat with the 70 VLD,,the 75 AMax is a no go
     

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