remington 700P .223 1 in 9 twist "best ammo"

Discussion in 'Small Stuff--22s, 20s, and 17s' started by stinnett1981, Mar 16, 2012.

  1. DennisH

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    stinnett1981,

    I can only tell you the same thing will happen just by changing powders and loads with the "same" bullet!

    Never really dug into it, I just adjusted and kept shooting!
     
  2. Scotsman1

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    What did we tell ya!!! You're right where you're supposed to be. Naturally shooting 69's are gonna be heavier than 60's. You're talking 9 grains difference. And, a difference in powder charge. That's a big difference in the bullet world. The law's of psyic's apply in weight ratio at those speeds.

    Now that you've found your sweet spot, keep practicing with the 69's and your groups will get even tighter.

    Congrats,
    Sean
     
  3. stinnett1981

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    Hey guys. Now that I have this .223 shooting good, I plan on shooting it out to 600 yards. Now I'm trying to decide on a second rifle (getting reloading kit first). Wanting something to shoot to 1000 yards. I'm really wanting to buy another 700P, but in .308. The other calibers I was thinking is .243wssm, 25-06 and 25wssm. I dont want a giant shoulder smashing magnum! I would like any advise. Even if it is a different caliber that I listed! I'm really leaning to the 700 .308. If a marine corps scout sniper uses it. U know its a awesome caliber and rifle!
     
  4. Hoier

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    I would stay away from the WSSMs, I have a couple and they are not all they are cracked up to be. If it were me I would stay away from the 308 for 1k(guys will be busting my balls for saying that). I would look at the Savage F-class in 6.5-284 or the LRP in 260.
     
  5. stinnett1981

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    Im more of a hunter. My .223 is for varminting and target/plinking. The next gun will be for deer hunting and long range target/plinking. Honestly I wont be measuring my groups from 1000 yards. I will actually be shooting large metal.....things, large ballons, large targets and things like that from 1000 yards. It will be my Missouri deer hunting gun too. That's why I'm looking more into getting a 700 .308. But I hear the 25-06 is a awesome HOT round too??? Anymore caliber suggestions guys???
     
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    In that case maybe the Savage Long range hunter in 6.5-284. I have a buddy who has one and it shoots really well. I don't know about a 25-06 I have zero expereince with quarter bores, I think their bullet selection is lacking.
     
  7. stinnett1981

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    Thanks for the info! What about a 6.5 remington magnum vs a 6.5 284. What are the pros and cons of the 2. Ammo selection, ballistics, which shoots flatter and which has a longer barrel life??? and any other info of the 2???
     
  8. Hoier

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    6.5-284 all the way! The 2 are about the same performance wise but the 284 is way more popular. I'm not sure you can buy a new rifle in the 6.5 rem.
     
  9. stinnett1981

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    Cool man! I'm gonna start looking into it. Will the savage long range hunter model in 6.5 284 be accurate out of the box? I know the .308 is a very simple caliber and most .308's out of the box shoot great. Does the 6.5 284 shoot lots of different weights of bullets? Give me some details of the 6.5 284 if u can! Thanks!
     
  10. queen_stick

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    6.5-284 can be very accurate at long range, but it can be "finicky" to load for. Some people burn up barrels without ever finding the sweet spot. Barrel life is another down side... some barrels only go about 900 rounds before they need replaced or set back. If you get one that shoots, it's hard to beat, but it does have two pretty major downfalls.

    The 308 is a good choice, but other chamberings offer better long range capability. The standard 243 Win is an example, however barrel life is short with them as well (not nearly as bad as the 6.5-284, but not as good as a 308). A 6mm BR (savage sells them) would be a good choice for what you're looking to do. Barrel life of a 308, very easy to load for, and deadly accurate all the way out to 1k yards. Make sure it's an 8-twist barrel so you can shoot the heavy bullets (95gr and up).

    If you haven't read them yet, check out the cartridge guides on the main page of this site... all kinds of info on each cartridge you're looking at.
     
  11. stinnett1981

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    I don't feel like playing with a finicky rifle!!! plus i don't plan on shooting competition! i made up my mind. its gonna be a 700P .308. Its a nice simple proven rifle and caliber. It will shoot great out of the box with factory ammo. plus it will shoot 5000 rounds (long barrel life!)
     
  12. queen_stick

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    absolutely nothing wrong with that decision!
     
  13. stinnett1981

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    The Remington 700P .308 come with a 26 inch heavy barrel rifled in 1/12 twist. It will shoot everything from 155g to 180g correct??? That is a good common twist for that caliber???
     
  14. DennisH

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    I personally like 11 twist! 308 is my game, shooting out to 1k yds with it is going to be tough! It can be done, but it can be done easier!

    223: I tried NBT's and V-Max's this weekend. I found a great load in by 223 9 twist using 55gr V-max. Still going to work on the NBT's as I believe there a little more destructive, just a little!

    I screwed up the shot in the 1pm position, all five shots should have been in there!

    [​IMG]
     
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    Here was my best group from this weekend from my 700P .223 with 69SMK's at 100 yards. Little torn up and muddy from the wind. I left it on my target stand in the back of my truck while driving home. Its a thin paper target. Gonna start using cardboard instead for better bullet hole showing. Im very happy with this Remington 700P!!!
     

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    How do i measure groups? Is it from the 2 farthest rounds outside sides? I see some people minus .224 for the bullet diameter (I am shooting a .223). Or is it from the center of the 2 farthest rounds? Just by looking at the picture of my group with the dime next to it above. What would u guys guess it would be??? Under 1/4MOA ???
     
  17. Hoier

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    Looks like its .3-.4. The way I do it is measure outside to outside and subtract the bullet diameter. In your case would be .224.
     

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