RAD or Gracoil on 300WSM?

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  1. SHall

    SHall Silver $$ Contributor

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    I am thinking of either putting a Hydraulic recoil reducing pad on my 300WSM LG for 1000 yard benchrest for next year. I have seen some F-Class guys put the RAD (Recoil Assist Device) on their magnum rifles. I see that their is another called Gracoil that is a little cheaper, but looks like good quality. Anyone got any advice or experience on which one is better for a BR rifle. I will put it on a 17 pound lam. wood ST-1000. I have a muzzle brake and recoil pad already, but after a dozen shots in a row counting sighting in and 5 on target I get pounded to the point I have a head ache and sore shoulder sometimes. Thanks for your time, Samuel Hall
     
  2. Sniper338

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    The RAD works VERY well. Gotta shoot and get used to it. I need to put one on my 338 lapua.
     
  3. vahena

    vahena Bob Schultz Gold $$ Contributor

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    I am also very interested in the responses here, as I have 2- 284 Shehane rifles for F-class comp with the Rad 2 system and I could shoot them all day long with no ill effect. I was thinking on bumping up to a 300 WSM but recoil for F- class would be too much, I believe. Does anyone shoot the 300 WSM with a Rad 2 system or know of the effect on recoil it would have?
     
  4. Cody Richardson

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    I have a rad on a wsm and a Shehane. Shoot both pretty close to free recoil, makes the wsm much more tolerable over 60 shots!
     
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  5. Terry

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    Just had the RAD system put on my F Open rifle. I'll shoot it this week.
    After 88 rounds two days in a row, I'm looking forward to it.
     
  6. Boatschool02

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    Would welcome feedback on the Bump Buster, as well. (The designer supposedly installed hundreds of RADs before spec'ing his own admittedly similar design)
    Thanks,
     
  7. SHall

    SHall Silver $$ Contributor

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    The Bump Buster looks to be a good design also. I was not aware of it.
     
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    I have 2 Bump busters on my two 7mm SAUMs. They seem to work well enough though I haven't tried these stocks without the Bump Busters to see how much difference they make. I haven't seen or used a RAD to compare the two but am interested in hearing from others how they compare.
     
  9. SHall

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    Comparing the RAD, Gracoil, and Bump Buster. Does anyone know how each of the three units mentioned works? Spring Coils, Hydraulic piston, or combo of both?
     
  10. Ackley Kid

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    Rad is piston system I believe. You can view replacement parts list on there web site . I own two and run them on fclass rifles . Using 284 cartridge they are turned down to the lowest setting or one above . I have not used the Gracoil... but think it is a spring system ? Others who have the gracoil could verify or correct me if I’m wrong . In my opinion the Rad works well as I will be using this device for WSM build as well . Mounting plate allows lop adjustments very easily . Rad 2A weights in right around 1 lb , and all adjustments ( lop , cant , height ) can be made externally , except the piston setting which requires removal from the stock to do ( knob is on the end of piston )
     
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    Have only used rad and i am happy with it,
     
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    R.A.D.= no more pain. Simple as that. Love mine
     
  13. RDavies

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    The Bump buster has a hydraulic damped piston as well as a spring.
     
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    R.A.D. is also a hydraulic damper with a spring. The damping is controlled by an adjustable valve. They don't offer different springs but I found springs with different rates at a local hardware store and put in one that satisfied my preferences.

    Robin
     
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    vahena Bob Schultz Gold $$ Contributor

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    I believe Noram Tracy Harrold sell's a spring kit, with different weight springs for the Rad system to get a better fit for different shooter's.
    Rob
     
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  16. TSteelman

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    Sam, never used either of them but I have heard nothing but positive things about the RAD. Interested to see how it turns out.
    See you next match.
     
  17. Terry

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    Wednesday morning F Class. Looking forward to it.
     

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  18. SHall

    SHall Silver $$ Contributor

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    Give us a report back after you use it!
     
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    Don't forget about the in the stock Edwards recoil reducer too; I'm guessing not quite as effective as a hydraulic buttstock, but I may be wrong.

    -Mac
     
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    I shot Trap for about 20 years and Registered for about 7-10 years .At the end when I was going to State Tournaments you would shoot 100 and 200 bird events and recoil was cumulative. I was only shooting 15,000 rounds a year BUT you do what you can to reduce recoil . Very familiar with Gracoil , mercury recoil reducers , and the Rad which was the most expensive and after a lot of investigation and thought went with the Rad on both of my shotguns. BEST THING I EVER DID!!!! A totally worthwhile and well designed recoil reducer .
     
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