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Primal Rights CPS...

Gentlemen,
I don't know if you have had a chance, however, Primal Rights has come out with the production version of their(his) Competition Primer Seater. I like part of the design of the product, however, I have a few issues as well. I would like to hear your thoughts on the unit found here: http://www.primalrights.com/equipment/base-cps

Design issue:

1. I don't like the fact that a $600 bench priming tool does not have a primer tube guard. Having had the opportunity to tour the Nosler factory quite a few moons ago I was interested that they loaded daily production testing ammunition on Dillon 550 loading machines. I was taken a bit aback by the black rings on the ceiling from the primer tubes exploding. Thankfully Dillon encases their primer tubes with an external steel tube that protects the reloader and avoids turning the primer tube into a frag... I discussed this very issue with Dykstra and he, rather weakly, suggested you not load more than 10 primers at a time. No matter how modest the chance of a tube going up, I think a $600 unit that has supposedly been built without regard to cost should have included a properly designed primer tube/magazine blast shield. Especially one aimed at speeding up the process of properly seating primers for precision hand loads. I have precision and safety now with Sinclair Hand Tools and The Co-Ax Press Priming Tool...

Long term product support:

1. IF the product were perfected and I heard of more of them being bought by precision hand loaders I would worry about this less, however, the reality is that this is a small company with a product that is going to appeal to tiny sliver of the market. Not to be a dick, however, I don't want to buy a $600 priming tool only to have him go out of business in a couple years. No track record so to speak. The majority of what he sells is made by someone else and I have seen those markets come and go...

Thoughts? Too early to adopt? Complete lack of primer tube blast shield compounded by the 10 primer at a time insult to your intelligence... In short I would like to know what some of the rest of you think...

Regards, Matt.
 
Looks fancy. But it's a *PRIMING TOOL*. Spend your money somewhere that matters. And your concern about the primer tubes is legitimate. No thanks.
 
This "tool" was discussed in depth on another site some time ago - aside from being overpriced, and their return rules are ridiculous... (you buy it, you own it for life, no matter what !!)

... the big problem is that no mater how accurate their micrometer adjusting wheel is, and no matter how precise the manufacturing is - the reference surface that ALL of the measurements and accuracy is derived from is the inner back face of the extractor grove - the rim thickness. And the rim thickness is not fixed, even in the same lot - so it is impossible to achieve any accuracy from this "tool".
 
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Gentlemen,
Concur... Just read the Return Policy. The CPS is clearly not the only "tool" at Primal Rights..

Thank you for the reality check...

XBBR,
Thank you for the accuracy index point or lack thereof...

Best Regards, Matt.
 
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Rated priming rate is 1000 an hour. That'd give me "primer elbow" for sure. :D

That video on the unit is almost funny.
 
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Rated priming rate is 1000 an hour. That'd give me "primer elbow" for sure. :D

That video on the unit is almost funny.

He must have forgotten that you need to refill the primer tube 100 times during that hour! I guess you have to give the elbow a break.
 
Gentlemen,
Concur... Just read the Return Policy. The CPS is clearly not the only "tool" at Primal Rights..

Thank you for the reality check...

XBBR,
Thank you for the accuracy index point or lack thereof...

Best Regards, Matt.

It appears we've gone from the sublime to the ridiculous! Will not repeat the comments above since I agree with all of them! Never in my wildest dreams would I consider something with a "built in" accuracy problem, especially given the absurd purchase price($600.00) and the "no return" policy! Obviously, someone has a helluva lot of time on his hands!! Just when you think you've seen & heard it all, then...!

Best Regards & good shooting!

Tuxedo007
 
It appears we've gone from the sublime to the ridiculous! Will not repeat the comments above since I agree with all of them! Never in my wildest dreams would I consider something with a "built in" accuracy problem, especially given the absurd purchase price($600.00) and the "no return" policy! Obviously, someone has a helluva lot of time on his hands!! Just when you think you've seen & heard it all, then...!

Best Regards & good shooting!

Tuxedo007

I use a RCBS bench priming machine.

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I bought it back in 1967, and it has never failed or needed repair. It was designed by Lachmiller (who was one of the top loading tool designers, "back in the day").
When Lachmiller decided to retire, RCBS bought his designs, many of which are still in the RCBS catalogue. It is one of the best priming tools made, and it is fast and solid.
 
This is great!!!
It just so happened I was watching YouTube tonight and seen that video..as I watched it..i though...kind of cool..kind of like my RCBS primer tool....( I love my rcbs bench primer) works great..then I see some one said the price was 600$.. I could see maybe..and a unlikey maybe at that..but maybe on a powder scale..never on a priming tool..i would much rather spend 600$ on some new barrel blanks from Krieger, put 600$ toward a new night force scope, ..hell new tires on my truck I drive back and forth to the gun Club in..
600$ on a priming tool...bahahahaha..that's a good one.
 

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