My buddy forgot one of the basics, ...

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  1. bluealtered

    bluealtered Silver $$ Contributor

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    I have a buddy that lives down in the Burns area which is sage brush country and good hunting. Vast amounts of open range land and coyotes up the Kazoo.
    It seems he was in such a hurry the other morning, (he over slept) that he just grabbed all his gear and raced out to jeep and roared out to his hunting spot which was in the middle of no where, and ran to his blind he had made years ago.
    He left the jeep sitting in the middle of the trail to his blind since it would be weeks or months before anyone might come along down that trail, well he did pretty good that morning on the dogs and decided to call it a day about noon.

    There was about three inch's of snow on the ground that morning when he got there but the sun had come out and melted it off and he was leaving muddy tracks as he walked out dragging his coyotes and thinking about the $$$ the hides would bring in. He was thinking about a steak and maybe a beer for dinner that night as he got back to the jeep to celebrate the good hunt.
    There was only one problem, ... when you go out in the desert in the early morning and the ground is frozen, ... well when the sun comes out and warms everything up the ground thaws and what you parked on may have been just frozen mud.

    You see his jeep was now resting on the frame rails sunk up to the bottom of the jeep in mud. Now he has been running this country for many years and is just as prepared as any desert rat, there's a huge winch on the jeep and of course a handiman jack but winching out on sagebrush is an art that doesn't always work very well. Most of us have saved ourselves with a handi man but there has to be a bottom to what you set the jack on to make it work.

    The end result was that all he could do was dig out around the tires and the exhast pipe the best he could and wait for the ground to freeze up that night so there would be a base to jack up the jeep from. So he spent the night in the jeep running the heater and about 2:00 the next morning he was able to jack the jeep up and stuff sagebrush under the tires and get out. Steak and egg's and a beer made a great breakfast he said.
    I guess the message here is always remember that what freezes also thaws out and to be prepared so you don't have to walk out.
     
  2. Knotwild

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    Tell him to throw an anchor in that jeep. Works pretty good.
     
  3. TheOtherZilla

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    I can't wrap my head around frozen earth that thaws so much during the day that a vehicle sinks to it's frame rails. I live in Wyoming so what do I know. I do know that around here that would be 3" of mud on frozen earth, and slicker than slick
     
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  4. JSH

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    So it thawed, the jeep sunk up to the frame rails and he is gonna wait for it to freeze before he pulls it out? If it freezes enough to get a jack to hold, stands to reason the jeep will freeze in solid too?

    April fools day is a ways off yet. Sorry this dog don't hunt.
     
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  5. KMart

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    I wonder where he really spent the night. :confused:
     
  6. hogpatrol

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    I can definitely sympathize with the dog hunter. When your brother says don't go any further, it's only frozen on top, don't go any further. That's me in the front and then he got stuck trying to pull me out. Thank a buddy and John Deere for not having to wait until the next morning.

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  7. 5spd

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    Burns WY?, just about 15 miles from my place.
     
  8. Bojo

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    I was in far enough by distance off road and vertical depth in the mud befor to have a john deere 550 dozer rescue me . Ah memories of a youth when I knew it all !!!
     
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  9. bluealtered

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    Thanks hogpatrol, that shows it quite well. I can think of three stuck's right off the top of my head that i have done, one in apple valley cal, one behind the nyack restaurant on I-80 in the sierra's next to the S.P. train tracks and one here where i live now. That one ended up costing me the jeep i stuck. There have been plenty more, those are just the worse ones.
    To say you can't get stuck that bad only means you haven't done it yet. There are a lot of different types of mud in these United States.
     
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  10. Don

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    Been there , saw my F-250 slowly getting lower. The wife was with me !!! She will never ever go again . I was out past Chucker Park Juntura Or.
     
  11. hogpatrol

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    Got stuck in New Jersey clay. Long strap and a Kubota that time. Wife was behind the wheel, turned all the way to the left. Had to get off and tell here keep the wheels straight, was just plowing a foot of mud up in front. Didn't get one groundhog, four bucks for the bridge toll and a ton of mud in the wheel wells. Not exactly a happy camper day. :(
     
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    It's not an adventure until something goes wrong. :)
     
  13. hogpatrol

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    Yep, you have to laugh. Crying doesn't do any good.:D
     
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    That place brings back some fond memories.

    Little further north, above John Day, I took the shortcut from the Middle Fork over the top to go see a lady friend. Took a wrong turn, then backed up into a snowbank over a bar ditch.. Landcruiser was done. 18 mile walkout. Thank the Lord I had a snowmobile suit in the rig. Still froze my a$$ off.
     
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  15. John from MN

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    And that's why most of us keep and older, but still reliable vehicle around for hunting.

    Glad your bud got himself out without having to spend a bunch of money.
     
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    New Jersey Pine Barrens , the locals tell you dont drive through the puddles. Well come to find out the puddles are sinkholes filled with water. Not me but watched a K-5 Blazer all but disappear occupants climbed out the back window cause doors couldnt be opened.
     
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    Grew up in Tillamook Oregon. Went out hunting one morning early with a friend of mine. Left the Scout on the side of the logging road and went deer hunting for the day.
    It wasn't frozen and the ground looked damp but not muddy. Came back and I was sunk up to the frame. In Oregon on the Northern Coast, the ground really never dries out completely. You get a crust on the top which more often then not will support a vehicle passing over it. Well while we were hunting that crust gave way from the constant heat and when it did, we sunk. Was soup below that crust of about 3" thick. Tried to dig it out but no luck. We started to walk out, about 8-12 miles, came across another hunter about 5 miles down the road with an F-350 4x4. He tried to pull us out but all he did was spin the tires in low. Another hunter came by with another 4x4 and we hooked them in tandem and was finally able to pull my little International Scout out of that mud bog.
    You never really know what is under you until you break through.
     
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  18. bluealtered

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    This reminds me of another one, ... we used to dirt bike in a place called coyote hills. It was an OHV area that bordered the south bay tidal flats which is where all the mud from the bay current wash's up to. We had mounted boat trailer winch's to our front forks where the headlight should be, and the contest was to see how far out into the flats you could make it and get back to shore before being stuck. (not just the bike but you to)

    Needless to say some of the stucks took a whole day to undo, and there were times that when you did get your bike back, and when it was loaded up you took your cloths off, and you then put on coverall's and threw your cloths away. I guess fun's where you find it sometimes.
     
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  19. Spike A

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    i tell you i just dont know why people just dont listen some times... ive pulled out dozens of people of people.. when i say park on drive way just off road and stop I MEAN IT!!!!... but for some reason they all think just a few more feet will be ok... the last was a buddy with a jacked up f250 7.3... with mud tires... ( had to use the duramax on that one not a tractor for a picture)... which i like to send to him every so often to remind him.. the 2 worst was a guys mid 90s ford truck in the fall like above it was froze in moring drove out .. come 11 with sun and 35... that one took 8 wheeler to even get to... he parked in a low spot so truck wouldn't be see from hunting spot :cool:.... it sunk to frame.. which apparently was not in good shape... pulled truck in half.... i told him i should stop.. he said keep going it will come out...:rolleyes:.... the next worse was a guy trying to dig a pond with a dozer.. stopped for the night... parked it in the bottom... figured he would finish it in the morning... it rained 3 inches that night... all you could see was top of the canopy took 2 big boys.. and an excavator to get it out... than we get it out.. immediately guy climbs on it... i see him .. yell NOOO!!! .. too late ... hits the key... instantly toast engine... i mean head... rods... bearings.. lifters.. whole 9 yards... funny thing to that one... it was a rental... with no insurance.. :eek::eek::eek:... last i knew price tag on engine was $15000.. guy never paid... we go to that dearler once in a while... for shits and giggles we ask if we can rent the submersible dozer :rolleyes:
     
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  20. Phil

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    Coyote Hills is still here, but the OHV area is long gone........You know, California and all that junk.....:(:mad::mad:
     

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