Lots of people at gun counter at Academy

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  1. rr2030

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    I was listening to a report from a study that someone did, (didn't catch that part) many components that ALL the shooters from Columbine to now share. The #1 similarity was abuse when young, like toddler young. Psy drugs, video games, many other similarities. And yes, access to a family members firearms OR legal purchase of a firearm was on the list. All shootings at schools by students at that school obtained a firearm from a family member.

    We won't move forward on this until we objectively look at root cause opposed to just another feel good gun law. But what do I know.
     
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  2. 1badgoat

    1badgoat Gold $$ Contributor

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    But in there lies the real dilemma. Any prospective solutions require the possibility of relinquishing individual rights.
    A red flag law opens the possibility of false accusations that might be used to supersede the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. Likewise any law that seeks to "hospitalize" the mentally ill could be used in bad faith to persecute those who may not be ill but fall out of social norms.
    And most of agree that common sense gun laws fall under the slippery slope argument.

    I think that what we lack now a days is trust. We don't trust the people we may disagree with, and therefore we are always questioning anyone's motives for agreeing with any particular idea. We should be able to disagree without turning every argument into a battle to the death.
     
  3. Daddymac

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    The problem with gun laws are they are penned by Politicians and lawyers, and instead of using a rifle for accuracy and target the true problem, they use a shotgun and throw a pattern so wide law abiding gun owners suffer the most. My wife and I got some marriage counseling 25 years ago at, you guessed it, a mental health facility, my wife also used the same counselor, years later, after a near death experience of one of our children, so, because we have been "treated" at a mental health facility, I fear we will be taken out with the scatter gun approach.
    The truth is, the gun haters want the biggest bang for the buck, this is why they cast the net so broad, there description of "assault weapon" or at one time "cop killer bullets" is so broad it covers anything even remotely close, if they get what they really want, like Venezuela, we will only have rocks to throw.

    Has anyone here ever been "treated" at a mental health facility? Prescribed a medication that could fall under the mental health umbrella even though it was for a physical problem? Maybe you got in a fight at a bar in college and the cops came, think about it, chip on the stone long enough and it will all fall.
     
  4. JimT

    JimT “I don’t even own a piece of camo!”-Kenny Jarrett Gold $$ Contributor

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    Worked on this case.

    Court documents reveal why suspected white supremacist in child porn case could not buy gun
    http://via.kdvr.com/wY5BP
     
  5. snert

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    not lately...

    did I slur my rant?
     
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  6. Daddymac

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    What are you trying to say? That some people should not own guns? If so, I agree completely, but this type person is going to do bad things gun or not, what I was saying is, not everyone that has been to a mental health facility is crazy, but I fear they will be red flagged in the broad approach that government takes.
     
  7. Tnslim

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    I remember back in the day when we started school with daily devotions followed by prayer. Then we ALL stood for the Pledge Of Allegiance and got the day started. Then the government decided to take all that away just because a select few caused a stink and look what we have now. God has been banned from our schools and our flag is not welcomed as it once was. Maybe if God was back in our daily lives and our flag was still the symbol of peace and the American way it's likely things would be different.
     
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