Killed 3 deer today and couldn't lie out of it.

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  1. JRS

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    After reading your description about the shot placement, I'd say you were extremely lucky the deer died right there. Sounds like 2 of them were gut shot.
     
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    correct
     
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  3. BenPerfected

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    Don’t know your local laws, but shooting 3 deer in a 1 deer bag limit is inexcusable. My thought is for you to consider giving up your hunting license....forever.
    Ben
     
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    Absolutely I’m not perfect. Of course I’ve missed. I simply said that my biggest problem was with shooting at an animal when you can’t see all of it. Shooting an extra by mistake becaus it stood up when the first one dropped bothers me much less than shooting at parts. His 2nd and 3rd shots concern me for safety reasons. I’ve never shot at part of an animal when I couldn’t tell what part it was or see enough of it to know what I was shooting. Perhaps he’s a bad writer, but his original post seems very much to say that he shot at parts moving in the brush. I didn’t call him names tell him to quit hunting or anything. I simply stated that my biggest problem was with shooting at an animal that you cannot clearly see.

    On a side note, a big takeaway here is that if you accidentally shoot an extra animal, you stil have to clean it and take it with you. If you try to hide it, you get nailed for waste of game in addition to being over limit. I honestly think it’s BS, to stack charges like that, but I’ve read about it being done.
     
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  5. JRS

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    The OP lives in a state with generous limits. Unfortunately, he did something illegal. He moved that deer from the point of kill without tagging it, and tried to hide it. That's probably the reason he was cited.

    Edit: Those Game Wardens have probably heard every excuse and story known to man. They have a job that comes with responsibilities, and as hunters, we too have responsibilities.
     
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    In my county, I can kill 2 bucks, 4 does. I can do it all on one day, with a North American mini revolver and 22 shorts. Our Wildlife Commision is of questionable intelligence, our biologists are worse but our enforcement guys are pretty good. Never met an impolite one.
    As far as the OP is concerned, I will not judge what he did by what he wrote. Big difference from reading what happened and seeing what happened. OK you got a ticket, move on. From your humility, I'd say you had punished yourself far worse than any monetary fine.
    As far as criticism online, welcome to the world where everyone can be anonymously perfect and never screw up, their kids don't need braces and kill deer dead at 458 yards with one shot every time.
    To those being harsh, Karma is a bitch.
     
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    Thanks for sharing your lesson, Daniel. I’m going to make sure my son reads this thread so he can learn from your experience.

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    ^^^^^This for all you high and mighties^^^^^
     
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    what a wonderful story to tell. In Idaho you would be looking at loss of the firearm, your vehicle, a lot of $$$ fine, loss of hunting privileges for a couple years, and the likely hood of getting some new orange coveralls to celebrate Christmas in.

    I cannot believe you use religion after the fact to base your eventual honesty on. What you have done if you were not caught?

    And the rest of you, quite a fan club you have formed here...

    God will forgive you, but you will still face (I hope) the maximum consequences for your sin.
     
  10. Kermit in Va.

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    Idahoss...i feel sorry for you.
    Someday...youll understand...
     
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  11. JRS

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    "By your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned".
     
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    In ND they would tell you the same thing until you look up the actual laws. It would basically be a fine and a low cost one also. The long of it is they use fear to keep you in check. I wonder if ID uses the same tactic as ND
     
  13. Milo 2.0

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    There comes a time in almost every mans life when he may have to lie, unfortunately, this wasn't one of them. Sometimes following our Fathers advice of coming clean right away is always easier.
    To the op, I bet you wont pull your pants down with this crowd again, lol
     
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    "He who is without sin cast the first stone." Everybody can't be perfect like they think they are. Glad I don't have to rely on my merits but on the blood of Jesus to cover my sin. "All our righteousness is as filthy rags". To drive that point home those filthy rags are speaking of women's minstrel cloths.
     
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    I have seen worse with my own eyes with poachers. You are no poacher, and its an honest mistake that you fessed up too. You will get off light on this one with a warning or perhaps a small fine. Commit to community service and teach youngsters the importance of knowing your target and a clear shot, and don't let the excitement get the better of you. If you're not sure of a shot go look for blood. There's always tomorrow's hunt if you missed. Getting to hunt tomorrow is always a good thing!
     
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    I have to believe the OP now realizes what he tried to do was not an "honest mistake", but a poor choice that got him into trouble.
     
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    windsurgeon, et al,

    it may have initially been a mistake, but his actions following the shot became poaching and are reprehensible. I believe he planned on keeping the poached deer, and came clean only after being caught and finding that he could not lie his way out of it to the game wardens.

    If I had made the error, I would have taken all of the deer to the check station and confessed my crime. Once he made the decision to keep the deer, he became a criminal. Nothing he did after that was no longer a mistake, it was criminal activity.
     
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  18. JRS

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    You'd be proud of me right now, Rich. I'm looking at a new Jaguar F-Pace;)
     
  19. WindSurgeon

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    I read it as he panicked after shooting the deer, and then lied to the officers, which is a crime for sure. I don't defend him lying to the officers, which to me is the more serious crime. But the action of shooting at multiple deer, thinking it was the same one, is not an uncommon mistake especially when a person is not experienced and all hyped up on adrenaline. I have sat through hunters education four times and don't ever remember them discussing what to do if you mistakenly shoot more than your limit of deer in one sitting (know your target and what's beyond, look for clean, clear shots). But there are reports of that happening all the time. He did not go into the woods that day with the intent of breaking the law, and I would bet he won't do that ever again. My guess is he does not have your hunting experience (looks like you have been on African hunts) and has not been in that situation or even contemplated it. I don't tend to think the worse of people which is my weakness. I prefer to look at it as an opportunity for others to learn from that mistake so it is not repeated by others.
     
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    agreed
     
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