Can molten lead be poured into a laminated stock?

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  1. Lee in Texas

    Lee in Texas Gold $$ Contributor

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    (Without damaging it)

    I want to add weight to a Savage BVSS stock. Any problem pouring molten lead into a hollowed out buttstock?
     
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  2. Chris Covell

    Chris Covell Silver $$ Contributor

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    Be better off using #9 shot.
     
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    DirtySteve Gold $$ Contributor

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    You can dump some White Elmers Glue on top of the shot to keep it in place. If you need to remove it later it is easy to break up..
     
  4. Sniper338

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    Test it on some wood.
     
  5. Dusty Stevens

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    Id bet itll catch fire before it cools
     
  6. Sniper338

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    You would be better off making a mold you want.. mold it and drop it in after cooled. Probably a cylinder type mold where you can drill the butt with the desired size drill bit drop in the molded weight. Thad be my simple appraoch.
     
  7. jds holler

    jds holler Gold $$ Contributor

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    Your molten lead will be six or seven hundred degrees, and in a fairly large pour will take sometime to cool. It will surely cause some burning of the wood, and possibly check or crack the stock.

    I'd go with the shot method or drill holes with a spade bit that you could insert pre-molded lead weights in.

    When I was a kid, I made a wooden mold to cast sling-shot ammo with. The wood was oak, and it lasted pretty well, but it did char and burn. Diameter was 3/8" if I recall. Those little bullets cooled before they could do much damage. jd
     
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  8. DHuffman

    DHuffman Gold $$ Contributor

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    I use the bigger pre molded lead weights then put plumbers putty between them so they're not loose in the hole.
     
  9. nicholst55

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    You can cast weights in sand, too - fill a bucket with sand and pack it in tight. Make your hole(s) to the depth desired, then pour your molten lead. Use dry sand - water and molten lead is asking for a visit by the Tinsel Fairy!
     
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    I have done several in my younger days. It is interesting to say the least.

    make small pours, wrap a wet cloth round the stock. Pour no more than 1", in hard walnut, and that may catch on fire. Do not put water on molten lead as it will explode all over you and the ceiling. I had to throw one Birch stock in the swimming pool. In another 40x stock, the lead just burned a hole in some soft grain and came out just behind the pistol grip, it looked like Silver inlay.

    Count on very darkened stock with no finish(no kidding!!!!) You can call it dark Burl.

    If you don't like all the above, then make very small pours with molten lead, and don't do it with your buddies watching, because will urge you to,"go for it".

    The smart move would be to buy lead wool or #9 or 12 shot if you can find it, and mix the lead shot in casting resin. Don't pour over 2" at a time of the casting resin either, as it puts out some serious heat, you can crack a stock.

    #12 shot
    https://www.ballisticproducts.com/Chilled-Lead-Shot-12-13mm-10_bag/productinfo/02612/

    Lead wool
    https://www.homedepot.com/p/5-lb-Lead-Wool-B13652/202246295
    In stock?

    Mix with casting resin, tap down with a wood dowel, flat on one end.

    In the late 70's, we got serious about being able to see our hits on p. dogs, and reducing the beating we were getting from recoil. We made a flat fixture that went from the front tang screw to the front sling swivel, and attached a diver's weight that weighed 9 lbs, maybe 12, it did the job!
     
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  11. Lee in Texas

    Lee in Texas Gold $$ Contributor

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    Lots of good ideas. I didn't even know lead shot was still made. My plan was to make a large hole by drilling some smaller holes and then use a chisel to connect them. I'm not married to the idea of molten lead.

    Thanks. Lee
     
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  12. JohnKielly

    JohnKielly Australia, not Austria Silver $$ Contributor

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    I've delaminated a stock with less heat than that.
     
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    You never cease to amaze me JD. I just grabbed a rock, looked at it closely to ascertain if it was a "lefty" or "righty" and let er fly with a little windage...never hit a darn thing 'cept my buddy Bob...
     
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    If you’ve always wanted that custom flame job on your stock this would be the way to do it
     
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    Build a mold if needed. But never pour liquid lead in to a stock.. If you do you'll need an other stock.. Had a friend try it on an Ar-15 stock and had to replace it after feeling stupid... Later
     
  17. gunsandgunsmithing

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    Lead shot and epoxy resin, like acraglass. Mix the resin, then add shot. Pour the mix into the stock.
     
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    Get a piece of 1" diameter copper on e-bay or Amazon. I believe it is more dense than lead.
     
  19. hogpatrol

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    Lead is more dense. Think bullet weight vs size.
     
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    Close, but no. Lead’s 11.36 g/cu cm, Copper’s 8.96.

    Now Mercury’s 13.55 (and toxic as all getout!!) and Gold’s 19.32 (but expensive yet you’d need less of it).

    Tungsten, or tungsten carbide’s a good choice. Pure it’s 19.25, the carbide’s 15.63.
     
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