are wilson full length bushing dies better than redding

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  1. rockwind1

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    so going to start reloading for my 6.5 cm and was going to buy a die set. i was sort of stuck with redding on some other calibers but i kind of have my choice now. i just want something i can buy that is already in stock rather than special order a custom die. i have experienced getting more runout than i like using my redding type s full length dies,,,,it always happens when the neck is sized down by the bushing.

    how do the whiddens and wilsons OR ANY OTHER BRAND compare to the same type of redding die

    i really like the one stroke, do everything aspect of the fl bushing die.
     
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    Whidden will have 6.5 creedmoor dies in stock
     
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  3. dstoenner

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    I agree wholeheartedly. My Whidden FL bushing dies resize the brass better than any other i have tried

    David
     
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  4. Skunce

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    I have all three and I like the Wilson the best. The Wilson does have an odd size, 30mm, lock nut though. I ended up buying an ER20 collet wrench from Amazon for $7. If I wanted a custom fit die I would go with the Whidden.
     
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  5. L W P

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    Not sure how others fell about this but I like the one stroke resize with my Redding F/L bushing die using Lee Die Locking Ring. I feel that it helps self line the cases better going in and out of the die. My run out after resizing once fired is good (.000"-.003"). And after second firing becomes even less on the high end (.000"-.002"), with the high end numbers closer to .0015". Also I have Whidden dies that I use the same Lee locking ring on too.
     
  6. L W P

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    Not sure if you were asking about seater dies also, but I like Wilson seaters. I kinda use them as a case gauge too. By that I mean I like to see how my resized cases fit into the seater when a bullet is being seated. Are they too loose or too tight etc., and try for consistency, noting if I get that one odd ball case ever.
     
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    I was referring to the Wilson full length bushing die with 7/8-14 threads. Not the arbor press type neck die.
     
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  8. SteveOak

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    A friend of mine recently got a Wilson threaded FL bushing die in 22 PPC. The body was way too tight, unusably tight. He is going to try opening it up which is not really a good solution as when you do that you are removing the hardened part of the die.
     
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    Why doesn't he call Wilson they make 22ppc factory,22ppc match threaded.
     
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  10. SPJ

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    I'm moving towards Wilson for all gauges , trimmers and seating dies, all the money we spend experimenting on cheap crap now I just call Wilson - they actually answer the phone.
    Shoot Small
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    Wilson fan here too. Their stuff is top quality and it just works!
    I recently got their threaded FL die for the tight 6ppc. Works great.
     
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  12. hawkeyeshoooer

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    When you neck size you simply push the brass back. I like the Forsters when it comes to a full length die due to the way they setup their sizer. But a Redding will also work. THe best seater out there is a Forster. I also load with Wilson dies a lot, and the doughnut's gonna be something you expect. Their seaters is very good, but really not all that much better than the Forster (or the Redding copy of the Forster). What you need right now is a K&M tool that will remove the doughnut. Also remember that a Wilson full length die needs a heavy duty press to work in that case size. I use the small K&M at the range, and it wouldn't begin to full length size those cases.
     
  13. IdahoSharpshooter

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    imho, Wilson dies, with the micrometer head is the most consistent way to go.

    Any regular die set will be limited by the tolerances between the ram and shell holder, and dies.
     
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    All my seating dies for my comp rifles are Wilson arbor dies. They are the epitome of the KISS principle.
    I hope this helps,

    Lloyd
     
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    I have Wilson, Redding, and Whidden bushings. I like them all. Haven't had any issues with any of them. All make very concentric and accurate ammo. But I have had issues with Redding dies in the past. Never had issues with Wilson or Whidden dies. Therefor when I am looking for a new bushing, I look for a Whidden first, then Wilson, and finally Redding in that order.
     
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    It's interesting to witness some of the collective philosophy of the various forums- coming from more of the PRS side of shooting, Redding/ Forster get the nod, without much mention of whidden/ wilson.
     
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  17. hawkeyeshoooer

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    I use several different brands for different purposes. Even Lee makes some dies that are superior, such as the Lee neck sizing dies...0 run-out. I like the Forster ultimate micrometer seating dies I have used very much. RCBS equipment is great too. Redding body dies are nice because they do not touch the neck. RCBS FL dies have really low run-out for a FL die and expander ball setup.


    With presses and such, it seems Dillon is a cut above the rest, then Redding and RCBS, then Hornady and Lee. But with respect to dies, it seems each has a niche.
     
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    That's because the tactical crowd doesn't know any better... ;)
     
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    Itll come along just like the hi perf 6mm did. Used to be a 243/308 game then came the 260/6.5x47 then came the dasher/br/6x47 class of cases. Benchrest type techniques and equipment have their way of migrating to other disciplines over time as competitors look for an edge over the competition.
     
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    So you look to lee and dillon for precision?
     
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