Discussion in 'Varminter & Hunting Forum' started by Greg Taylor, Sep 4, 2017.
anyone have one? Brand ?
My father just had his AR .223 rechambered to 22 nosler. Approx 250 fps faster. We took it on a PD hunt last week. Nasty on PD but had issues with his ripping the rims off cases on extraction. Not sure why yet.
As an AR guy I'm mixed on the 22 Nosler; but curious enough I may try one. High pressure would certainly push me to a rifle length +2" gas system for any chance of reasonable brass life. I'd be looking at 55gr varmint up to 77ish gr match. Say 24-26in barrel pending some dwell calculations.
Benefits over a 22 Grendel (or other similar sized cases) are the availability of bolts of decent quality.
In a scale of 1-10; the appeal of 22 nosler is equal to 50 Beowulf...
6mm AR is a bit more appealing in my opinion.
Tag to see if anyone has first hand experience.
Thanks for these notes - didn't think of the 22 Grendel, great idea
Watching with interest. Personally I don't see the need in it for the cost of brass. Necked up it has potential using the same stronger bolt. The ones ive seen have extreme muzzle blast indicating that it needs a longer barrel. Velocities are not as advertised. I don't see it lasting. Nice try though.
Whitley`s .224 AR????
I bought an AR Stoner barrel , dies & brass as soon as it came out. Put it in a rifle length system and the results are so bad that I can't even call them disappointing. Brass is a joke, I haven't found a load yet that doesn't rip up the rim of the case. I don't think it's an issue of bad brass, but a bad case design. It needs a .440 head on the case. When you get to where the brass isn't getting killed, there is no advantage over a 223 in terms of velocity. From the big sales on anything 22 Nosler & the gun magazines really pushing articles about how great it is, my guess is that it will be a distant memory soon. In the mean time, I've got a SS fluted (really pretty) barrel, dies and brass for sale. Cheap.
Hmm, maybe a good idea for a switch barrel 222 or 223 rig then. Wonder if one could savage barrel nut a how mini action...
Before you sell that barrel, do you have an adjustable gas block you can try on it? cut the gas back to soften the extraction
Yes, I was running an adjustable block and with the gas turned off, the rims are OK, if it ejects, not so much.
As stated above ive had problems with the brass im lucky to get a 2nd reload out of it.
As far as velocity goes i cant get 3000 fps out of it without deep extractor marks on it.
Im a big ar fan for pd hunting. Just the plain 223 is great. 22 grendel is a great idea. Imo nothing beats my 204 ruger upper and my 20 practical upper for pd hunting.
I bought an AR Stoner upper when they were first on sale at Midway. I started off reloading right away and found that the headspace is excessive on unfired brass. They needed to be fireformed with a lighter load and then you could go full power. If you didn't do this, heads were chewed up pretty bad and needed to be filed down. I am currently getting 3000 fps with 64gr SGK out of an 18" barrel suppressed and the brass is on its 3rd loading. Accuracy is not near benchrest but good enough for pig hunting which is what this is for.
Same here. It was either not enough to eject or ripping rims off.
Thanks to all. I'm going 22 Grendel
Wow, there are some common problems showing up. I just tossed the 22 Nosler gas gun idea in the trash.
I built one with WOA 24" 1 -12 equipped with extended length gas system. Was a sad round until I switched to 6.8spc bolt along with Hagar brass.
Now driving 53gn varmageddon bullets 3800 fps with 1/2" groups. And the brass holds up much better .
Don't get me wrong, I wish I had a 22x47L instead.
That is a good idea
The 1st time that I tried to order a barrel, they were back ordered. I wish they had stayed that way. I fireformed brass and it still chews them up. I think it would be a decent round in a bolt gun but you can have a 22-250 so it's a moot point. I really think that they should have necked down the 6.8 SPC, using a 223 bolt carrier means nothing to me as I have 6.8's, 6.5 Grendel & 7.62x39 rifles. A carrier isn't a big deal to most people who shoot AR's.
It seems the surface area of the small bolt/extractor isn't compatible with the pressures involved. The carrier is the same iirc.
Greg, do a .22Grendel. Or, a .22DTI...(22-6.8SPC Improved)
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