Anyone interested in new Nikon Black X1000 scopes?

Discussion in 'Scopes, Optics, LRFs, Spotters, BoreScopes' started by Ledd Slinger, Apr 29, 2017.

  1. Ledd Slinger

    Ledd Slinger Gold $$ Contributor

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    I have a new Nikon Black X1000 6-24x50 scope on the way. I will be putting it in a hunting rifle. Has the second focal plane X-MRAD illuminated glass etched reticle and .1 Mil turrets. I went with the mil turrets because .1 mil equates to roughly 1/3 MOA which will increase my dialing speed for hunting.

    Being that the Nikon Black X series of scopes are brand new for the spring of 2017, there are virtually no reviews out on them yet.

    I was just curious if any of you would be interested in me doing a full review on the scope? If not, I won't waste my time. Let me know.
     
  2. nakneker

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    I'm always interested in new optics. I'd read your review, you've given out some great info in the past.
     
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  3. muleystalker

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    I would read it.
     
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  4. Ledd Slinger

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    Ok. It will be a couple more weeks, but I'll document it when I run the scope the ringer.

    I've owned a couple Nikon Monarch 4-16x50 scopes in the past. They had pretty good glass and performed well in low light. I just couldn't stand Nikon's reticle selection. I actaually liked their plain duplex better than their BDC. I hated those open holes. Not very good for precision aiming at any distance. Their scopes with 20X or more might allow more precise aiming, but Nikon never put any amount of elevation adjustment into them so I never considered them as an option. I never had any issues with my 4-16x monarchs tracking and returning to zero perfectly when using the turrets for dialing so I'm not too worried about that.

    Bought my son a Prostaff 7 in 4-16x50 for one of his hunting rifles and it has just as good, if not better glass than my old monarchs so I imagine their coatings and glass have advanced a bit since the days of my monarchs (back when there was only ONE version of the Monarch scope).

    Thankfully Nikon finally broke their lull of plain scope making with this Black X1000. Has a pretty nice reticle. Dont care much for the illumination, but all the black series scopes come standard with it. In the few optical pictures I've seen, the X-MRAD reticle has a little more clutter than I prefer for hunting, but it's not too thick. The 6-24X scope has a decent amount of adjustment with 17 total mils, or 58 MOA. And weighs in at just 25 oz so not too heavy for a long range hunting scope. I figured I'd give it a shot. If it's better glass than my son's Prostaff 7 and tracks true, I should be pretty pleased for the price point.

    I was also looking at the Leica ER5 series, but theres a few reviews out there about tracking issues and more than a few people complain about how thick the reticles are. Also looked at the Vortex PST Gen II, but that sucker must be filled with lead for how much it weighs. Plus now that Nikon has a NO FAULT Lifetime Warranty on their mid priced and up scopes, Vortex no longer has any advantage over Nikon in that department. Vortex offers a lot of scope for the money, but I've never been impressed with the low light performance in their glass. In the past, I've owned Razor HD binoculars, Razor HD spotting scope, and a 6-24x50 Gen 1 PST scope so I've had some experience withe the best glass they offer. I don't own any of them now. Good glass, but the low light performance is nothing special in their respective price points. Nikon always seems to be a step above their price point in low light. Just the opinion of my own eyes there.

    I paid $584 at Sportsman's Guide for the scope with the 10% club discount. I can always send it back if I don't like it so I figured I'd take a little gamble on it. Hope it turns out to match up to the hype Nikon is throwing out there about it. When I first saw it, I thought for sure it would be another one of those damned FFP reticle scopes for the steel ringing crowd. Glad to see they came out with SFP reticles first for folks who demand precision.
     
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  5. bman940

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    I just got my hands on the same scope as well. Unfortunately I do not have the rifle yet so I will probably break down and put it on something else just because I can't stand it sitting in the box. Like you, I also went with MRAD for the exact same reason. While I like the increased accuracy of the MOA the MRAD will get you to distance quicker. You got a grerat deal for a loaded scope by the way. I do freelance PR/Shooting Event's for Nikon and the BLACK Series is the result of what shooter's have been asking Nikon to make for the last 3 years. Now that it's here I think you guy's will be very happy with what Nikon has produced. A friend has one and I'll ask him to chime in. He is a coyote hunting machine and was the first to harvest an animal with this scope and he hasn't slowed down one little bit. I would love to read your review of this optic from first impression's to a full day at the range. Hopefully you can post some pics as well. Nikon is working on updating Spot On for MRAD adjustment's. I also have a BLACK FORCE1000 1-4 Illuminated Reticle that I will be mounting up and hopefully trying out on hogs next weekend. Honestly, the new for 2017 BLACK Series is a breath of fresh air for Nikon and the consumer. As Ledd stated. Nikon broke out of their lull and made something longrange shooter's have wanted for some time.

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  6. GlockamoleTX

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    I would be interested in how this glass compares to Monarch 3, 5, etc.... Basically, which one it would most closely translate to.
     
  7. STOMP442

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    I really like a nice Nikon scope. They have worked very well for me in the past. My only complaint with them was that if you wanted high power you had to settle for 1/8 minute clicks which work great if you are a short range benchrest guy but are terrible for long range hunting. I am very happy to see the mill adjustments on this.
     
  8. bman940

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    I think Nikon only has one maybe 2 scopes that have fine target crosshair's and are 1/8 inch per click. All the other choices are 1/4 inch per click at 100 yards. Nikon has even added some FFP scope's tot heir line up and surely more to come. If you are looking for some higher magnification and fantastic glass check out the MONARCH 5. I have one on my custom .300 Win..The MONARCH 7 line uses a 30mm tube which increases your internal adjustment considerably. All these scopes can also be ordered with a Custom Turret dialed in for your specific cal., ammo and atmospheric conditions. I do not do any sales at all by the way. Defintely check Accurate Shooter's Sponsor's to see if any can help you out with your purchases.
     
  9. DocBII

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    Bart,

    No link (or I couldn't find it) on M7 scopes at the Nikon site. 1/8 MOA clicks are fine, 37 MOA of adjustment just won't do it when I've checked out Nikon scopes. Fine CH are good, 30mm tube even better.

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  10. tripdad

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    Interested in seeing review. Now for the horror of hve to shoot it to wright reveiw, gosh i just hate to go out and shoot most of the day just so i csn tell some nackasses how it shoot,# dream job. Enjoy the horrible day and report back soon. Lol:D
     
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  11. nakneker

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  12. Ledd Slinger

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    Lol. I was gonna put it through the paces like I do any new optic I buy. Was just trying to determine if I should bother taking pictures and writing an article. I have a universal digiscoping adapter. It wouldn't mount to the sig sauer Kilo 2200MR rangefinder I reviewed a while back, but I might be able to get it rigged up on the rifle scope so I can get good clear pictures of the optics and reticle.
     
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  13. Ledd Slinger

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    My 6-24x version only comes with MRAD reticle and mil turrets right now. I read about an MOA version of the 6-24x, but never did see it for sale anywhere yet.
     
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  14. Ledd Slinger

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    There is one video i found on youtube of a guy using the 4-16 black x1000 XMOA on a 50 BMG rifle. He called it a review, though it was everything BUT that. Didnt leave me with any new info or insight on the optical performance. I think he just wanted to show off his 50 cal shooting a couple steel targets more than anything else. It did show the reticle in the video, though the video quality was quite poor, and I'm kind of glad i went XMRAD because the XMOA reticle is a little thinner than i would like in a low light hunting situation without illumination (hunting big game with an illuminated reticle is illegal in Montana) So other than showing the XMOA reticle in the video, it was an absolutely worthless review.
     
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    I noticed on Nikon's website they claim that the Black X1000 6-24x50 with 1/4 MOA turrets only has "25 MOA of total internal adjustment"...This doesn't make sense to me. If the .1 mil turret version has 17 mil (58 MOA) total, how is it that the 1/4 MOA turret version only has 25 MOA total??? Is there something different in how a mil turret adjusts compared to a MOA turret that I'm not aware of?

    Or perhaps it's a misprint on their site...
     
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    Has to be bad info, doesn't make any sense.
     
  17. Fast14riot

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    Possibly 25moa elevation from mechanical zero? I've run into a few people who refer to adjustment from centered zero. I typically care more about how many minutes per revolution on the turret. How much does the Nikon have? At least 15 would be ideal.
     
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    That was the other explanation I was thinking of, but it says 'total' elevation on their website so still not sure. Maybe they mean total from zero? Who knows. Though that would be 50 MOA total which sounds more realistic. Cant be 25 MOA all together. Nikon's says the turrets have 12 MOA per revolution, which isn't much in today's optics world. Another reason I went with the .1 milradian model.

    My .1 mil model has more elevation adjustment at 17 Mil (a little over 58 moa) and the turret gives 5 MIL of adjustment per revolution, which is roughly 17 MOA. Although I'm not a milling guy, the turrets are more to my liking so I can get on target at long range with less turret movement. Let's just hope I don't forget that it's different than my MOA scopes when taking a shot at a trophy buck or bull ;)

    Of course Im still waiting to travel home and get my hands on it to see if I even want to keep it...
     
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  19. GlockamoleTX

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    I had a chance to look through one last week out to about 500 yds. Glass was pretty clear for that price point. Scope seemed solid. Focus worked pretty well. Liked the reticle.
     
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  20. bman940

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    Finally got my hands on Nikon's BLACK X1000 4-16x50 MRAD IL and I am impressed. This scope has been a long time coming for Nikon and it does not disappoint. I am not sure what else you guy's might like to see from this scope other then maybe a FFP. I sighted in on a stormy dark North Texas day. Zero issues, I then went over to the 200 yard range which has a dark backdrop and proceeded to shoot a sub 1 inch group with my CMMG Mark 3 CBR. The glass was clear and bright, the adjustment's on the turret's were all positive clicks and the turrets easy to grip. The zero reset function is a great feature and found on many of Nikon's M-Series of optic's. Illuminated reticle worked great with 9 brightness settings and an off setting in between which makes it easier then having to remember to go all the way back down to zero for off. I went this weekend with a friend who has been shooting this rifle for month's and watched him pound steel plates at 400+ and 700+ yards using his .223 and Fort Scott Munition's ammo. These scopes are supposed to start filling store shelves but from what I've been hearing about the pre-order's they may already be shipping to buyers.

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