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80 grain Amax

Discussion in 'Small Stuff--22s, 20s, and 17s' started by DelRan, Nov 6, 2006.

  1. DelRan

    DelRan

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    Hi guys,

    I am new to shooting 224's. I would like to build a long range 224 for f-class up to 600m. I will be using a 30' 3 groove Lilja tube and would like to drive the 80gr Amax to about 3550 fps. Any advise will be appreciated.


    Delville
     
  2. Preacher

    Preacher Site $$ Contributor

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    A 22/6mm Ackley will put you where you want to be with no problems other than barrel life....
    A 22/250 Ackley will get you close and a little better barrel life.......
     
  3. JER

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    Barrel life being what? 1000 rounds?

    Ya can't buy points.
     
  4. mysticplayer

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    If your goal is to shoot F open, there are better choices with better barrel life. You will always have to watch the wind.

    Remember that having a rig capable of shooting a bullet that fast doesn't mean the bullet is going to like it. I read an article on guys building super fast LR varminters and the 75gr Amax didn't like going much over 3300fps.

    I can't see the 80gr AMax doing any better especially when the twist is increased. If it will only tolerate 3200fps, ballistics at 600m can be improved using a 6mm or 6.5mm.

    If you are set on the 22cal, consider shooting F T/R with the 223. yes, the wind drift is substantially higher then options in F Open but everyone has the same issues.

    This will likely be my next project rifle.

    Jerry
     
  5. reedmosser

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    I have been shooting the 80 grain a-max all summer at 3650 fps in my 22-243 ackley. Ive shot them out to 1300 yards and have no problems with them at all. They shoot good and kill even better. For 600 yard comps though the 22-243 ackley. 22-6mm ackley, and 22-250 ackley are to much of a good thing. I think the 22 dasher is ideal. It is a ackley improved 22 br. It will shoot the 80's at 3300 fps no problem and is very accutate and not as hard on barrels. It will match 22-250 ackley performance with better brass and less powder. I shot my dasher at a 1000 yards last year with 100 grain wildcats and had zero problems. IF you have any questions call m,e on my cell 724-366-1989 reed
     
  6. jadams

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    I also shoot a .22 Dasher with a early version of the 80 grn. A-Max bullet. The velocity I shoot at is 3330 fps. It has about 1400 rounds through it at this time. I lent it out last month to a friend to shoot the long range metallic varmint match and he won the match with it. That's out through 600 yards, in the wind that day )
    Earlier this year he shot it as a hv. gun in a bench rest match here in So. Ca. and did quite well with it. It has been known to shoot less than 2" groups at 600 yards with the A-Max.

    I also have a .2247L that shoots the 80 grn. A-Max at 3550 fps. with no problem at all. My understanding is the new production 80 grn. A-Max will withstand velocities well over 3600 fps. in 1 in 8" twist barrel. I know of two guys that shoot the new 80 grn. A-max at over 3600 fps. in 1000 yard matches with their .22x6mm Rem.'s
    John
     
  7. reedmosser

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    Gunamonth your right about the dasher that was just the quick easy way to describe. Thanks reed
     
  8. gunrunner

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    .22-250ai will get you up there but not that far.I started with imr then switched to vv4350.35gr,80gr sierra or nosler,win brass,ccibr-2, 3012 average mv. I have went up to 3295mv but accuracy went south. that load shoots under 1/2in at 200yd.ruger 77mkII,28in shilen match,#7 in custom factory ruger laminate stock.1700rds and still shooting.
     

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