Discussion in 'Big Stuff -- 6.5mm, 7mm, 30 Cal' started by alextheabranchial, Dec 29, 2017.
Save yourself and go 7mm RM
I can remember back in the '60s when the 7mm RM was introduced. The hype wasn't as bad as the Creedmoor but it was enough to make many a 100 yard deer hunter run out and buy one. I can also remember how many scope eyes I used to see at the ranges.
Funny how the best argument people have against the Creedmoor is don't buy it because it's popular. LOL Maybe they should actually look at what the Creedmoor offers with an open mind. A hint, it's not marketing.
It's a good round but not the be all and end all that some claim. I recommend it highly to the non-reloader. Having said that, give me a 6.5x47 any day of the week. For me, just owning a Creedmoor would make me feel like I had the cooties.
It's just another rifle cartridge. Not sure who claims it is the be all end all. I don't but I also can see the advantages of it as well like the factory ammo, large amount of factory rifles available for it, when being loaded you can get very good velocity with high BC bullets and plenty of loading components available for it. Look at what it offers objectively and make a choice but comments like yours about cooties even in jest is what makes no sense. What does the 6.5x47 offer you over the Creedmoor?
Since the advent of Lapua Creedmoor brass, I think it's a coin toss with the Creedmoor holding a slight edge in velocity and factory ammo offerings(which means zilch to me).
A 260 beats them both.
Magazine length and fitting long bullets above the neck shoulder junction favors the x47 by a small amount.
Both are good. Prior to Lapua offering Creedmoor brass, it was the x47 hands down for me. I still haven't seen the Lapua Creedmoor brass, but I'm sure it's very good.
How about a 7mm Creedmoor?
Again the haters gonna hate but with no reason but it's popular. Would be sad if it wasn't so funny. LOL
Nah, same kool aid, only more expensive.
Well yea I like the 6.5 creed I think it's a nice little round. I have owned two and have hand loaded them and I was going to buy another one for my light rifle... BUT... Have you ever hand loaded a 7mm Weatherby Mag ...I have..
So I went Mark V Ultra Light in the Big 7 WM. It is the top.. Yea you can squeeze another 100 FPS from a 28 Noz or a Ultra Mag but you don't need it with a 150 at 3,400 FPS and a 175 at 3,050 it's all ya ever need..You know I have played with a few Weatherby Mag's and only in the last few years have I decided that Roy Weatherby knew a thing or two I have been surprised how accurate they can be...I really wish they chambered the 240 with a 1-8 twist..
Another gotta have for the CM fanboys.
New to this forum, but had to add from my experience. I shoot 7mm mag and 6.5-06AI (not creed, but close). For me anyway, to get the best from both you reload. Measuring headspace, backing off from the lands, playing with loads to get the best accuracy and ES. Right now I shoot the Berger 168 from the 7 and Sierra 140 from the 6.5. I'm getting just under 3000fps with the 7 (26" barrel) and 3063fps on the 6.5. Advantage 6.5 out beyond 600-700yds....but not by enough to closet the 7.
The 7 will slap you silly if you don't hang onto it. The 6.5 not so much, a pleasure to shoot.
Off the shelf with no big mods done, the 6.5....dual purpose and reloading, the 7 would be my choice. Just my preference....everyone has one.
Where's all the records the 6.5 creedmoor is winning in competitions? Enough said.
start out with the 6.5... you can always get the 7 later if you see a need. Use the lower ammo cost... it's accuracy... it's lower recoil... to LEARN how to shoot it with FUN as a factor... not with any attitudes of ..." Oh my, I gotta go shoot today... can I afford it? Can I take the recoil today?" If for no other reason... use the 6.5 as a base line to judge all other calibers from. You MUST have a standard of personal skill levels. Start with something that will help you create skills within yourself. Confidence is learned by training with skillful equipment.. and with skillful tactics.
The wins with the Creedmoor are out there but I know you don't really care anyways and just want to talk it down so not going to waste my time do your homework for you. Go look. You will find them.
I have a 7mm remington magnum and it's a hunting cartridge. You can shoot it for targets and long range, but I would advise to slow shoot it so the barrel doesn't warm up. If you go 7 mag, make sure the gun weighs a little more than a standard hunting rifle to mitigate some of the recoil like mine. A 7mm magnum totally owns a 6.5 creedmoor in every way for hunting applications regardless of what the Creedmoor fan boys say. Every 7 mag I shot is very accurate. I never had one that shot poorly if a proper load is made. I personally shoot 162 ELD match out of mine with H1000. As for the Creedmoor, I don't own one currently and probably wont either. I have a 243 and 6x47 Lapua that are both superior to a Creedmoor for target shooting.
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