6BR for sensitive shooter?

Discussion in '6BR, 6BR Improved & Wildcats' started by jpmimproved, May 30, 2017.

  1. jpmimproved

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    My wife has a very slight build and is sensitive to recoil. Right now she is running a 700 in 243 win which is running around 9 lbs. for her the recoil is manageable but it's a little heavy for her when hunting. I'm looking to build her a rifle with enough energy for out to 250 yards for small whitetail in central Texas, wanting to get to around 7lbs. Would the 6BR with 105 grain have comparable recoil to the heavier 243?
     
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    It will have noticably less recoil and perform way past 250 yards. You might find yourself building one for yourself too...
     
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    If magazine feeding is important, a 6BR is not the best choice. It can be made to work if needed, though. Use a Barnes 80gr TTSX bullet for even lower recoil.

    Personally, for a small, recoil-sensitive shooter hunting Texas whitetails inside 250yd I would recommend a .223 with 62-69gr bullets, which has about 1/3 the recoil energy of a .243 shooting 100gr bullets.
     
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    Consider a 6.5 Creedmoor with a 120-130 gr bullet. Plenty of factory loads if needed. Another option is the 6 Creedmoor which will drop the recoil a bit from the .243 and would perform well with 90gr bullets out to 300+ yds. Both will magazine feed well.
     
  5. jpmimproved

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    I typically hunt with 77 grain out of a 223, but I'm not overly comfortable going out past 150 yards with it, even though I can accurately place shots beyond that. For closer ranges, she also has a .22-250, but it's a factory barrel with I believe a 1:12, and it can only stabilize a 60 or 64 Gr bullet, so it's fairly limited. From time to time we also see free range axis deer come through, so I think the extra energy from a 90-105 Gr would be beneficial.
     
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    I'd love one for myself, but she takes all my nice guns for herself, so I'll have to make one for her first! Also, easier to convince her that we "need" good dies and components if it's for her...
     
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    Recoil calculator shows about 5% less recoil for the 7 lb 6mmbr--not very much. You could do the same thing by loading down the 243 by just a smidge and not have to deal with the potential feeding problems of the BR.

    And by the way I love the 6BR and they certainly will do the number on smallish whitetail, so if you just want a new rifle have at it.
     
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    220swift will take care of deer out to 400yds no problem
     
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    Yes, the 243 will perform admirably with lighter bullets (around 80 grains) and slower speeds. We run 75s at 3000 fps with Varget.

    Compared to the typical 100gr 2960 fps load, it has 76% of the recoil energy.

    Is the recoil the bigger problem, or hauling a 9 lb rifle around?

    Reducing the rifle weight by 2lbs makes the recoil energy go back up to the original value, but significantly increases the recoil velocity making it feel much sharper.
     
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    The weight is the bigger problem, but I know that if the weight was dropped two pounds it would knock her around a bit much. I've got a model 7 sitting around in 7mm-08 that I want to rebarrel, it hasn't seen much use recently so I figured a little facelift would get it back into service. The 243 only has a couple hundred rounds down the barrel and shoots well so I would rather keep it as is. If 6BR is too much hassle Ill just build another 243 and load it down, but I have heard that the 6BR is close in performance with a fair amount less recoil(and better barrel life).
     
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    If you really want low recoil look at the 6x45. 223 straight neck up to 6mm. Mine shoots 95 gr Partitions at 2650 fps. It's on an L461 Sako and weighs about 7 lbs even. It's a pleasure to shoot. I wouldn't hesitate to let my 70 lb 11 y/o daughter could shoot it. A solid 250+ deer rifle.
     
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    Swift Scirocco makes a 62 Gr bullet that will probably work in her 22-250 and produce much less recoil and the Scirocco perform perfectly. Something I would consider very seriously....
     
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    .223AI and a 50 or 62 tsx is where I'd be.
     
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    +1 on this. I was wondering if someone would mention it. I shoot a 7mm08 now, but as my neck and shoulder get worse, the 6x45mm is in my future
     
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    6.5 + 45 looks good also . Larry
     
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    The 6x45 with a 95 Partition is VERY deadly on deer and just a joy to shoot!
     
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    All are very good suggestions, and I think you said that the weight of the rifle was the real issue and not so much recoil. But, you can use the H4895 60% rule. Sometimes it works well, sometimes not. Hodgdon has it on their website, but basically, take the max H4895 load for any listed bullet load and multiply that by .6 as the minimum starting point and then you can work up from there to get the accuracy desired and minimum velocity you think necessary.

    Like I said, sometimes you can get some good results, but you have to test to see. Just a thought but it will reduced the recoil. Personally, when I was still hunting a lot in west Texas, i found a 243 load with 80-85 gr bullets, especially the TSX to be a great load and with very minimum recoil.

    Dave
     
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    The 6x45 is real nice. And rumor is a 788 will feed a 6BR from the mag. Texas deer? 87 grain vmax to the chest.
     
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    Another alternative might be to add a muzzle brake. A good bit louder report but will certainly soften the recoil.
     
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    I run a 700SA Dasher and both Dasher and 6BR fireform loads feed 100% from a Magpul Pmag 7.62AC.
     
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