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6.5x55AI

HillbillySniper

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I'm kicking around this caliber for my next long range rig. Just wondering if any of you guys have one or have had one, how it shot for you what kinda range you was gitting, what slugs worked the best. Any input is a help.

Thanks Hillbilly
 
I too want to do the same thing.I will be watching for the answers to your question.The one good thing about improved cases are the ability not to grow and have to trim all the time.I like the 140 grain bullets myself.I have tried the lighter bullets in a standard swede but I seem to get better accuracy with the heavier bullets.
 
One of the top F-Open shooters is now using the 6.5X55AI after trying the 6.5X284, 284 Shehane, and 7mm RSAUM. He seems to be doing extremely well with it.
 
Just built a 6.5x57AI F Class rifle. Went that route because I had a whack of low usage 6AI brass which was easy to neck up.

To be honest starting from scratch I would have gone the .260AI route. Redding bushing dies are available.

So I am curious why someone would go the 6.5x55AI route which would be almost identical to the .260AI? I don`t see reloading dies readily available for the Ackley Swede. Is it because of the Lapua brass?

But now I hear that .260 Lapua brass is coming down the line eventually anyway.
 
You are correct 1000yard lapua is going to start making 260 brass, only thing I've noticed from watching this forum as well as other is the 260 rem has just taken off which I would have to say 260 brass might be hard to git your hands on right away which is why I'm thinking about the 6.5x55ai and yes it is comparable to the 260.

Hillbilly
 
I dont yet have one myself, but I talked 2 new shooters into getting a 6.5x55 Imp and they are glad they did so. Both of these guns shot very well straight off the mark with very minimal tuning, just jammed the sierras .010", loaded them to 2950 fps (One with H4350, the other with H4831sc) and both have shot better than any of mine so far. No doubt they got lucky quickly.
I have now have a 6.5mm barrel on the way to replace my 7mm as I dont like big kickers.
 
I wouldn't have said 6.5X55AI is "near identical" to .260 Rem AI. In standard form, the former has a 3 to 4gn water capacity advantage over the .260 which will be maintained when 'improved'. It may even become slightly greater as the Swede has a steeper case taper than .308W based numbers. The .260 is obviously the one to go for for tactical and sniper competition type rifles using short actions and matching detachable box magazines such as the AI design.

In practice, I suspect the standard 6.5X55mm and .260AI have very similar capacity and performance, so it's horses for courses depending on the action employed and rifle type/use, especially now that Lapua brass will become available soon for the former. I've just had a 6.5-284 Savage 12 F-Class rifle rebarrelled to standard 6.5X55 and am in the process or working loads up for it. So far I'm very pleased and a near case-full of Viht N165 is pushing 139gn Scenars out at 2,920 fps in a new (30") barrel in low temperatures around freezing, and also grouping nicely. Right from the off, the cartridge has produced exceptionally small ES values with both 140gn Berger BT Long-Range and 139gn Scenars with N160 and N165, a little less so with N560, so I'm very pleased with it. (As an aside, it is really strange and a bit worrying initially to be working up from starting loads of N160 that exceeded the maximum I used back in the days when I shot Historic Arms with a Swedish M1896 Mauser!)

I had looked at 6.5X55AI. The extra capacity makes it easier to get 140s into the 2,915-2,975 fps range depending on exactly where the sweet spot turns out to lie, but I was put off by the absence of dies. The few people I know using it mostly seem to have Redding bushing sizer and Competition seater dies with calibre sleeves that have been remachined to the new case profile. Sticking to the standard version has let me use an easily obtained body die and Wilson hand types for use in an arbour press, a considerable saving. A long-range BR shooting friend who is very into this class of cartridge has long maintained the 6.5X55AI is probably the 'ideal cartridge' in the calibre having just the right amount of capacity to give 140s 2,950-3,000 fps but with reduced capacity compared to the .284 Win case which he considers overly well endowed in 6.5mm form.

I'm not knocking .260AI. I believe .260 and 6.5X55 and their AI versions are superb cartridges and at last getting the use and recognition that their performance merits. I suspect 6.5X55mm may lose out in the popularity stakes amongst target shooters to .260 partly through short actions, partly fashion, and partly brass issues, but no matter, there will be enough people using it to ensure good quality dies and brass will remain available to see me out, not to mention much younger shooters just adopting 6.5s for the first time!

I've been promised first go at .260 Rem Lapua brass when it arrives with the UK importer Hannam's Reloading Limited and look forward to having a good look at it. If it is like the last three Lapua introductions I've got samples of - .22-250 Rem, .308W Palma and 6.5X47L - I expect the new .260 stuff to be REALLY good. My sample box of .22-250 is exceptionally consistent. There are even one or two cases where I can't find a single thou' variation around the neck and the vast majority are under 0.005", mostly well under.

Laurie,
York, England
 
I have a 6.5 x 55 Vias (30* AI) built on a Rem. 700 LA sporter .First load I tried after FF ( 50 gr/H4350 /130 Berger vld) shoots damn near as good as my pt. blk. BR guns out to 300 yd. This sports a Lilja 9 tw, #3 ctr. I have a Krieger palma blank, 8.5 tw. for a Bat MB which just might get chambered up with this same reamer......I am that pleased with this chambering. Only thing holding me back is too little time since I devote most of my time to the Score Shooting game. Only negative has been that the Lapua case extractor groove has to be opened up for the 700.
edit-30* was orig. 35*
 
You may want to try a version of the 6.5 Sweed that I think has a lot of merit.

Run a 6.5BR reamer deep enough to use Sweed brass. Maintains the 30* shoulder and use standard BR dies (held off of coarse) with the appropriate bushings.

Gives up VERY little to the AI version, and no special dies required.
 
Apache said:
You may want to try a version of the 6.5 Sweed that I think has a lot of merit.

Run a 6.5BR reamer deep enough to use Sweed brass. Maintains the 30* shoulder and use standard BR dies (held off of coarse) with the appropriate bushings.

Gives up VERY little to the AI version, and no special dies required.


This is an interesting approach. However, running the 6.5 BR reamer in an additional 1/2" (my rough calc's) won't the resulting chamber give a ~.008 fatter case head ( around the web area)? Also, while the 6.5 BR dies are cataloged by some makers, I cannot find any off the shelf. True there is some cost savings ~ $40 vs. sending brass to Hornady for custom dies, I'd be leary that this approach wouldn't have issues.
 
I certainly cant take credit for the idea. I read about it a while back from someone else doing it....just can't remember where or when anymore. Concept is deffinately not new.

I have done them in 22, 6mm and 25 caliber so far. It should be viable for anything that any BR reamer is made for. I've seen them (BR reamer) in 338BR, so it should be able to to be done to anything up 338 caliber or more.

I'm gonna do one in 6.5mm, 7mm and 30 caliber hopefully in the future. The 6.5x55 Lapua brass is cheaper than thier other offerings and the quility is very good of coarse.

For dies I use Redding 30BR bushing dies with the appropriate bushing. Mine were custom made from 6br dies but I think they are standard now.
 
Thanks for everyones info and input. I decided to change from the 6.5x55AI to the 7mm08AI thanks again

Hillbilly
 
Quick note on the die issue. Lee collet neck dies work on every AI cartridge I own. Fire form it and neck size it with standard collet die. You're going to have a hard time doing any better with custom bushing dies.
 
Randfal said:
Quick note on the die issue. Lee collet neck dies work on every AI cartridge I own. Fire form it and neck size it with standard collet die. You're going to have a hard time doing any better with custom bushing dies.


I prefer not to use my action as a sizing tool and therefore require a proper FL sizer, I don't do NS anymore.
 

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