Out of a 23' barrel, I was able to shoot a couple of groups in the .2's with the 135 Classic Hunter and 40.5gr RL 16. Thrilled other than fact that they were only going 2720 fps. Per Berger, I have .2 gr left until max. RL 16 also seems to be less dense than other powders of it's class. I can possibly live with the speed but wonder if trying a different powder would be worth the effort? Varget or H4350? Not interested in anything that is temp sensitive as am loading for hunting. Others have pointed this out but to reiterate, the Berger Classic Hunter is the easiest bullet to load for that I have ever encountered. I also showed some promise with 120 Ballistic Tips in RL 16. I have no book loads for this combo. Stopped w/o pressure signs at 41gr. Only 2750 fps. I shot a .25" group at 39gr. Groups opened after that and started to close at 41gr. I may have another gr. or so of room left. Not sure how much more would make sense? Am I headed off the pressure reservation? Going to give Varget and H4350 a try. If I can not get the 120 BT around 2850 fps. I will stick with the slower 135 Classic Hunter load.