350 Legend

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  1. rebel

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  3. rebel

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    Worries with an AR with that, plus accuracy. It's not a 223 case. It has a 223 base. The case has been modified heavily and can't be reproduced easily.
    As discussed on another forum, this is a new reloaders nightmare.
    Still pretty neat though.
     
  4. OmegaRed

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    Ya, a lot of the "promised" specs aren't true. Probably be another fad.
     
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    Soon to be the "Creedmoor" of the AR world.
     
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    In what way? This seems to be a round meant to fill two very small niches.

    1) Deer hunters in states such as my own state of Iowa that require straight walled cartridges.
    2) People looking to tame down the round and shoot suppressed loads, like 300 Blackout.

    As opposed to 6.5 Creedmoor, which fills many roles and does them very well which is why it is extremely popular right now. There is absolutely 0% chance of this round catching on like that cartridge has, as it is simply meant to fill a very particular niche. Just because something is new doesn't make it a fad or impractical. The Creedmoor is well thought out and not going anywhere, and this is coming from someone who shoots 308 Win and doesn't even own a Creedmoor.
     
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    From the spec sheet I am looking at, base of 0.390 and case mouth of 0.378 gives a taper of 0.012" whereas the .223 has a base of .377" and a shoulder of 0.354" for 0.023" or roughly twice the taper of the 350 lgnd. It doesn't head-space off the rim (rebated) but case mouth, like the 30 carbine.

    I figure it might try and replace the 300 blackout. If so, they should have used the 223 case as a parent instead of a proprietary case. Could load it with carbide dies then!!
     
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    It looks alot like a mini 450 Bushmaster. The Bushmaster can have issues with crimping and accuracy associated with it. If it works it could be cool. I will wait until gen 2 ammo and parts are available. Not going to guinea pig for anyone anymore.
     
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    It's very similar to a .357 maximum - with a lot of the proposed changes to make it more popular not happening i.e. .223 case, lower velocities than promised, etc.
     
  10. AHC222

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    When was the last time you saw a .357 Maximum in an AR platform?

    And the listed 350 Legend 180 gr mv is 2100 fps from what I'm seeing, vs somewhere around 1700 fps for the 357 Max. Winchester would have to be off by quite a bit to fall into 357 Max territory.
     
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    1700fps is a very anemic 357 max. 180gr should be 2100-2200 fps. I run a 150gr at 2350
     
  12. TC260

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    1700 might be revolver data
     
  13. rockhound78

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    Rifle data is over 2200fps for me in my 357 max rifle, for a 180. Have hit 2500fps with a 158
     
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    Sign up for Mike Bellms newsletter. He has a bunch of info on there for ya, and he knows more than me. He states 2300-2400 worth 180s from a maximum
     
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    That's great and all, but you still never addressed the first part. Can Mike Bellms fill me in on the 357 Maximum's compatibility in the AR?
     
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    There are quite a few people turning the rims down and using the case in the ar15 platform. So it is compatible and works well with less work than some benchrest/target cartridges require.
     
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    I have not heard of anyone turning down the rims for AR use, there wouldn't be any rim left. I have heard of guys using .223 basic brass from starline trimming to 1.6 they say it works, but I haven't found anyone to talk to who's actually done it, just Facebook rumors and a guy who knows a guy.
     
  18. matthias

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    That is the point , turning the rim off. Then it is straight. I built two for hog hunts. Both were sold before the hunt was over.
     
  19. sawcarver

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    There must be some rim left if you're using max brass otherwise how would you extract it?
     
  20. matthias

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    Yep, picture shows the idea. Time.consumimg bit seems to be worth it.
     

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