30 BR and Varget

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  1. MGYSGT

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    Just got my 30 BR back from smith. Lots of loads for H4198, but only find Varget in Serria book. The data seems a little wild. They show loads for 110's to 155's and above, in the pages for the 30 BR. I plan on 110's to 125's at the most. My chamber is .330 and neck turned to 328.5 (loaded with projectile). What do you have for Varget loads???

    Thanks
    Tom
     
  2. RonAKA

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    A friend shoots one. He seems to prefer faster powders VV N130, N133, & Benchmark.
     
  3. artbosco

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    Forget Varget.

    Turn to .3280 for the .330 Neck and shoot Hodgdon 4198 with the loads and bullets provided on this site to get the most out of your 30BR: http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/30br/ There's a wealth of information here provided by the 30BR's founding fathers and 30BR Shooters-of-the-Year.

    Page down to the 30BR load map.

    You can get the BIB bullets here: http://www.bibullets.com/ and the Cheek's here: http://www.rcheek.com/page2.shtml in your grain range.

    Again, use the load map.

    Match the bullet's Ogive to your rifle's Throat Angle by using the chart on this page: http://www.riflebarrels.com/articles/bullets_ballastics/throat_angles.htm

    What's your rifle's throat angle?
     
  4. mkihne

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    You will also probably like a significant jam and maybe up to 4 thou of neck tension. Outdoorsman has you covered on everything else. By the way, has anyone mentioned you should use H4198? ;D

    To shoot bullets under 125gr, your twist should be at least 1:15 and for lighter bullets 1:17 to 1:18 may be better. Dave's link above will give you all you need to know. Most chambers are also minimal to no freebore for bullets and jackets in that weight range.
     
  5. P1ZombieKiller

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    You never said what twist you were using. Mine is an 1:18 and I too run a .330 neck. My brass is turned to .010 so that my loaded rounds are .3282 - .3284 and I actually have them just touching the lands. I went to a .326 bushing die last year right before the IBS state match here in Texas, and that was the trick I needed. Place just enough H-4198 in your case to push that bullet right under 3000 fps, and sit back and enjoy the show. It is one awesome shooting machine. If you do your part, the rifle will do it's part.
     
  6. MGYSGT

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    Thanks for the info. I shall heed those suggestions. I guess I need to get down to the local shop and pick up some H4198. My barrel is a 1:17 Krieger. I never asked what the throat angle is. Guess I better do that. .004 neck tension? OK I'll try some in that too. This is why I come to this site, tons of knowledge.

    Thanks again
    Tom
     
  7. artbosco

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    There's one other item everyone neglected to mention ... PICK UP A GOOD SET OF WIND FLAGS and spend plenty of time shooting over them.

    Here's a good place to start browsing: http://www.brflags.com/

    Also, you might call Smiley Hensley at 540-298-8368. Tony Boyer has been winning with Smiley's flags for years.
     
  8. MGYSGT

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    OK, I recut my necks. Went to the Bibs site and the tabs indicated no bullets in stock. Went to the local gun shop and guess what, no H4198. They had IMR 4198, but comparing load data for cartridges, they really aren't the same. Will order a .325/.324 neck busing. I only have a .326 now. I do have some 4895 and will use that to fireform the cases. Dave, I appreciate the offer of bullets to test. Nothing I dislike more that dropping $35 on a box of projectiles and find out it looks like a shotgun pattern downrange. I will take you up on that offer. I will look at some of the other projectile manufacturing folks listed.

    Again, thanks

    Tom
     
  9. AlNyhus

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    Give Randy a call on delivery times and what he may have on hand. -Al
     
  10. artbosco

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    I just spent twenty minutes on the phone with my friend Ronnie Cheek.

    He is only running TWO WEEKS behind on his orders.

    Last November he decided to put in a concerted effort to produce more because he was running behind almost a year, plus he lost about a third of his foreign business due to Homeland Security requirements. As a result he was able to put bullets on the shelf before this year's season began.

    If you need bullets for your 30BR give him a call: http://www.rcheek.com/

    There's plenty of H-4198 here, one of our prime sources with good prices. I recommend the 8 lb jug: http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/
     
  11. tenring

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    I just received an order of Ronnie's 118's in 2 weeks.
     
  12. savet06

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    and if you decide to give Randy a call, get a pen and paper ready because you WILL learn something. Every one of my conversations with him gets me closer to being more of a benchrest shooter, and helps me realize how little I actually know about accuracy.
    He is a good man.
    Mike
     

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