So I built another 30-28 a little heavier this time. Man what a pleasure to shoot. Anyhow, kind of shot myself in the foot.... Figured Id hit the next node with a little bigger case 30-28 vs the standard 30 nosler and use a 28" barrel. Well this barrel ended up very tight. I am running 30 nosler speeds with LESS powder. Oh well. Heres a ladder at 300, then one at 1k. Blue, green, and red on the 1k ladder bracket 3100 fps. Those 3 are 1 3/4" tall at 1k. I didnt like how the retumbo ladder looked.