223 Blue dot loads

Discussion in 'Small Stuff--22s, 20s, and 17s' started by Ksmirk, Nov 20, 2009.

  1. Ksmirk

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    I recall seeing something about some blue dot powder loads for the 223 but can't recall where! anyone have any ideas? Later,

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  2. Ksmirk

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    That sounds familiar! thanks a bunch I'll check it out when I get home this evening, I'm about tired of living in the country and having the neighbors or should I say the one bunny hugger neighbor complain about my K hornet going off :mad: just want to make the neighbors happy and be able to take care of the varmints. Again thanks for the direction! Later,

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  3. RonRouse

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    Kirk, I obtained some recipes using Blue Dot in my 223 from Keith Candler who posts occasionally on this site. Using 40 grain Nosler BT's, start with 11.0 grains to 12.5 in .2 grain increments, They shot one hole groups and literally no fouling after many rounds. Velocity averaged 3200 fps. Very accurate. Ron
     
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    Not trying to step on anybodies toes, if it works for you, that's all that counts. Just looked up 223 Rem. loads listed in the 2005 issue of Alliant Powder Reloaders' Guide. Page 46, silhouette data shows a large blank space for the 223/Blue Dot combination. Data begins with 2400. Also nothing listed on page 47, Centerfire Rifle Reloading Data. Again, powder choices start with 2400., then RL 7, RL 10, etc. In a center section between pages 32 and 33 Blue Dot is listed as "optimum" for shotgun and "secondary" for magnum handgun. No mention anywhere of it being suitable for rifle ctgs.
     
  5. Ksmirk

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    fdshuster, by no means take this as a bash but there were no load data for Retumbo in a 243 or RL-17 when it first came out. People had to try stuff to see if it would work and Im sure that some folks had some close calls and this is the reason I ask. I like to step outside the box and the loads and report is a big deal where I live and I have heard that the blue dot loads were very quiet compaired to a full house load of RL-15 or RL-10, I remember when I was paying with RL-10 in my 22-250 and there was no data at all for a 22-250 but being safe I worked up to a load that was acceptable and safe. Thank you very much for the concern but from what I have been reading the se of blue dot in the 223 has been around for sometime. Again please this is in no way a bash just looking for some good information and a good place to start and this board has been good to me with dependable information. Later,
     
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    Ksmirk: Not taking it as bashing at all, I see it as another point of view, and that's how we all learn. I'm a little sensitive to fooling around with powder and powder charges that are questionable and/or close to the red lines of pressure. Have been using a standard, accepted powder charge in my 6ppc for many years now with trouble-free results, and all of a sudden, several months ago, that same load blew a couple of primers. The result was a Neil Jones tuned trigger was damaged (from primer debris), and had to be repaired to the tune of $70+, so it was a "lesson learned" (yet another) for me. I just feel better knowing I have a little safety factor added to my loads, and if a load has been tested for pressure, and is in a publication from the powder manufacturer it meets my requirements. Call me overly cautious. :)
     
  7. Ksmirk

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    I like many points of view hench the reason I ask when I am getting into something I have never done before, I weigh all the replies and responses then I sit down and decide if I think it is safe enough to try or run like hell ;D

    In the past couple of days I have found loads for Blue Dot, Trailboss, and Clays. I have found that Trailboss will fill the cartrige where Blue Dot will not, most of the information on Blue Dot loads is consitent in powder charges so I'm pretty sure if I back off a grain from what everyone is having good luck with and work up all should be fine.

    I know what you mean about the oopsie every now and again, I've only had one very memorable event that stuck in my head and I'd rather not perform anything like that again! got some 215 primers mixed with GM210M primers and a stiff load in 22-250, lets just say the massive hiss made when the trigger was pulled I needed to go clean my shorts. Later,

    Kirk
     
  8. 22Leadlobber

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    After much reading I tried blue dot loads {.223} in my bolt gun .Seafire has done a lot of work with this powder. I have had no problems but caution must be taken not to double charge a case .I use it as a reduced load .
     
  9. Ksmirk

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    I posted this also over on Savage Shooters and got some great help and reults from a dude that goes by dolomite_supafly, I did some testing Friday and boys all I get is the crack of the bullet breaking the sound barrier and the same POI as my full house 55gr. V-Max loads granted not as accurate but hey they are still under an inch at 100 yards. I eneded up going with HP-38 powder and here's the results, not going to win any BR comps but hey the critters are going to mind. Later,

    Kirk

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