22 Hornet Brass

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  1. K Workman

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    I have a T/C Contender in 22 Hornet. My brass life is terrible. There are 2 problems. First is split necks and the other is loose primer pockets. I seldom get over 3 loadings per case. I load 4.0 g. Of BE with a 50 grain bullet. The load is accurate but brass life is short.
    It may be headspace in the contender. Your thoughts?
     
  2. bozo699

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    4.0 gr of BE? What is BE? I usually shot 10 or 11 grains of powder in my hornets with no issues other than I never found a accurate one.
    Wayne
     
  3. Homerange

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    In the short time I played with one I found the Hornady 45 gr HP BEE to give reasonable results.....well better than anything else I had at the time. Yeah they can be a finicky little pup. :rolleyes:
     
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    I have an early Walther and a CZ in rifle, Use 10 grns of 2400 and a 34 grn Dogtown bullet with 6 1/2 Remington primer. I have used mag pistol primers. The primers make a giant difference. You are on the wrong track with Bullseye.
     
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    BE..... Bullseye!.... I’ve never been any good with acronyms!..... hate them!... yes 4.0 Grains of Bullseye is probably why your having pressure issues . In my inaccurate hornets I found the most accurate of the inaccurate was Accurate Arms 1680 and Alliant 2400 both will fill the case with powder.
    Wayne
     
  6. Iowa Fox

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    I have 3 factory TC barrels in the straight Hornet. A 10 -16 and a stainless 21. The 10 & 16 have nice chambers the 21" is sloppy.I've gone to the Lee collect neck sizer only 100% of the time for sizing. 4 gr of BE might be more than the thin little case can take on the primer pockets.
     
  7. slugflinger

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    I agree with Iowa Fox, 4 grains may be a little much for a 50 grain bullet. I have for many years used Unique for reduced loads in my 10" Contender, usually around the 4 grain charge weight area, and usually with 45/46 grain bullets. The Lyman cast bullet handbook lists 3 to 4.6 grains of Unique with a 55 grain cast bullet, and Unique is a tick or two slower than Bullseye. I would back off at least .5 grain or so. I have also had neck splitting problems previously, but only with certain lots of Remington brand cases. What brand of cases have you been using? Also, I have wanted to try Bullseye for reduced loads, but could never find any published data.
     
  8. TheOtherZilla

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    2400 seems to work best in my Hornet.. I use 40 grain Vmax's.
     
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  9. bozo699

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    How full is the case with 4.0 grains ofBullseye?
    Wayne
     
  10. mike mccormick

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    I use Lil'gun in my hornet with 40 gr dogtowns. Head shooting squirrels at 100-150 yrds. This is one cartridge that neck sizing is appropriate
     
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    I would think Bullseye is just too fast for the Hornet back when I had one I used Win 296 or Accurate 1680. Weak brass was why I gave it up, super thin and seems soft.
     
  12. biggun2869

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    I've tried lil'gun and that's what i'd go to for max velocity. Incedently the CZ shoots better that the Walther
     
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    well a Mossberg 16 guage is more accurate than either one of my 77 rugers
    Wayne
     
  14. Herman48

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    I use in my Browning A-Bolt Microhunter .22 Hornet reloads 10 grains of 2400 behind a 45 grain bullet. Before this load I tried several others, and the results were discouraging, to say the least. No matter the load, included the one I described above, at 50 yards the "groups" looked like a load of BB's shot out of a cylinder-choked 12 gauge: all over the paper. I was about to try to find a sucker who would take this POS of a rifle off my hands, for half the price I'd paid, but before doing so I began to examine the gun very carefully, and I finally realized that it has a very long leade. The jump the bullet had to make to engage the rifling was too long and the bullet never engaged it straight or at the same angle. Naturally it would then fly out of the barrel yawing, or spinning erratically like a top at the end of its spin. I tried the above load, but I seated the bullet way out, so that it would almost touch the beginning of the rifling. Fortunately there is enough space in the magazine for cartridges whose COL is off the chart for this caliber. The result was fabulous: five shots in the same hole at 50 yards, and at 100 yards one-inch groups. So those of you who think your Hornet is not precise, check its leade. It may well be the cause of its lack of accuracy. Neck-sizing only also helps--if you are reloading for only the rifle in which you shot the original load--and the cases last longer.
     
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    Lil gun, and H110 are good choices, and i believe i used pistol primers also if i remember right.i was using 35 gr vmax bullets.
     
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    I've settled on H110, I use a stiff load with 35 gr V-maxes & a mild load with 46 gr bee bullets. The 46 gr bee bullets are an excellent coon load, replicating a .22 mag.
     
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  17. Bojo

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    I use h110 and a 40 grain Sierra "hornet" in a model 43. I have not loaded for it in about 8 yrs. Haven't shot it in a few years until last fall. Started splitting necks right away...
    Give the loads a slight bump in the seater press as it seam with the 22 Hornet that the longer it sits loaded the stickier the Bullet is to the brass.
     
  18. bozo699

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    I think all ammo is that way “clickers” or cold welding but with the thin necks of the hornet it probably is more than it can take.
    Wayne
     

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