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Offline khennessy

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Lapua Scenar versus Lapus Scenar-L
« on: 12:20 PM, 09/23/13 »
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  • Guys,

    i rather ask a silly question, than make a silly mistake.

    Anyways - is there a different in the Lapua Scenar versus Lapua Scenar-L?
    (Model Number GB491 - 4PL/HL7073 versus Model Number GB552 - 4PL/HL7063)
    i shoot 0.308 win calibre - 155gr

    http://www.lapua.com/en/products/reloading/bullets/centerfire-rifle-bullets/8

    this website is giving them both a BC of 0.460 - G1

    thanks in advance


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    « Reply #1 on: 12:51 PM, 09/23/13 »
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  • It is the same bullet with the same BC and shape, but Scenars from L-line should be more consistent (better precision) and for sure more expensive...

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    « Reply #2 on: 01:31 PM, 09/23/13 »
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  • Asked and answered! As stgw77 has said, the Scenar Ls are "premium" bullets, held to tighter QC standards than our standard Scenars. They're priced a bit higher than the standard Scenars, due to their increased production costs. Depending on what level of competition you're engaged in, they may, or may not, be worth the extra coin. Your call, which is why we continue to offer both. 
    Kevin Thomas
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    « Reply #3 on: 02:56 PM, 09/23/13 »
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  • No point in going any further with this thread.

    The Scenar L's are used by many shooters.

    "MOST" tell me they just clean them, load them, and shoot.  No special prep or weight to check.

    I have used them and I give them an A+++

    The Quality Control is based on consistant bullet bearing surface, base to ojive length, bullet tips, bullet weight, and maybe Kevin can throw a few more in with these.

    I can't wait to try the 30 cal L's.  I might be selling some other bullets after I do.
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    Lapua Scenar versus Lapus Scenar-L
    « Reply #4 on: 03:28 PM, 09/23/13 »
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  • "MOST" tell me they just clean them, load them, and shoot.  No special prep or weight to check.
    Clean them? Not familiar with 'cleaning' new bullets. How do you do so without doing any damage?

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    « Reply #5 on: 07:04 PM, 09/23/13 »
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  • Asked and answered! As stgw77 has said, the Scenar Ls are "premium" bullets, held to tighter QC standards than our standard Scenars. They're priced a bit higher than the standard Scenars, due to their increased production costs. Depending on what level of competition you're engaged in, they may, or may not, be worth the extra coin. Your call, which is why we continue to offer both.
    Just curious are the Scenar L's made on a totally different line with better machines and quality control?  Do the ones that do not meet the Scenar L's standards become regular Scenar's?
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    « Reply #6 on: 10:28 AM, 09/24/13 »
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  • Sankepit,

    No, it's a completely separate line, and they are produced specifically as L's. In most versions, the design, configuration, and BCs are exactly the same as the existing Scenars, but the QC control tolerances are ratcheted up; tighter dimensional uniformity in jacket wall concentricity, tighter weight tolerances, lengths, diameters . . . everything. The jackets receive the "L" stamp on the bottom of the jacket early on in the assembly process, so no, they're not "graded" as rimfire ammunition is, with the best being sorted into "L" packaging. They're "L's" from the very beginning of the production process, and monitored very closely throughout.

    On the flip side, we also watch the standard Scenar lines pretty closely, and it's entirely feasible to find lots of these bullets that will fully rival the L's in terms of dimensional uniformity, across the board. They're already very high quality bullets, with the L's just raising the bar a bit higher. Think of it as more of an extra layer of assurance, a little more peace of mind when you need the very best.
    Kevin Thomas
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    « Reply #7 on: 11:42 AM, 09/24/13 »
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  • Kevin, thanks for the information.  I have always wondered about the difference in production.  I have had good luck with the 6mm Scenars and one of these days will have to try the "L's".

    Nice talking to you at the NRA show/convention this past summer.
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    « Reply #8 on: 04:22 PM, 09/24/13 »
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  • My pleasure!
    Kevin Thomas
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    « Reply #9 on: 05:24 PM, 09/24/13 »
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  • "MOST" tell me they just clean them, load them, and shoot.  No special prep or weight to check.
    Clean them? Not familiar with 'cleaning' new bullets. How do you do so without doing any damage?

    Use warm water and dishwashing soap, agitate lightly, rinse thoroughly, dry.

    Or, use Acetone, just dip them, agitate lightly, then dry.

    This is for all bullets.  You would be surprised what settles in the bottom of your cleaning container.

    I use rubber gloves to handle after cleaning.

    I was told to do this and was amazed at the crud on the bottom on my tupperware after rinseing.

    I use Acetone to soak my brass after FL sizing.  Completely gets all oil removed, inside and outside.  Very useful if you are necking up brass and lube the inside of your necks.

    JMO, Dennis
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    « Reply #10 on: 06:23 PM, 09/24/13 »
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  • Lapua Scenar L bullets,
    More Consistant they may be, but dissapointing BC figures for the 120 & 136gr bullets I don't suppose I will change from the regular Scenars.
    dooley

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    « Reply #11 on: 06:46 PM, 09/24/13 »
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  • The folks at Lapua have generously contributed a very nice stash of .30 caliber 175 and 220 grain Scenar-L's for our state match prize table. I'm pretty sure they will be gone pretty quick! Hopefully, the winners will take pity on me and let me have a few to try.
    Thanks to the Lapua Team for their support.
    Rick
    Director- Palo Alto Mid-Range F-Class/Prone and Field Precision Rifle Matches

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    « Reply #12 on: 07:29 AM, 09/25/13 »
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  • The folks at Lapua have generously contributed a very nice stash of .30 caliber 175 and 220 grain Scenar-L's for our state match prize table. I'm pretty sure they will be gone pretty quick! Hopefully, the winners will take pity on me and let me have a few to try.
    Thanks to the Lapua Team for their support.
    Rick

    +1. I am not a national level competitor nor even very good. Nonetheless, due to their involvement with this site I buy Lapua. There are many manufacturers who produce good products, but I chose Lapua.


     

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